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If your main concern is around the game’s anti-cheat system and what data may be transmitted when the game goes online, that would be better suited to the Fraudulent Activity / Scams sub-forum.
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/groups/Sentinels_of_the_Store/discussions/22/
That section covers potential consumer-facing risks, including undisclosed data collection, intrusive software behaviour, or misleading implementation practices.
Appreciate you flagging it - just want to make sure it lands in the most appropriate section for visibility and discussion.
Then again, there could also be paid reviews. Just offering some alternatives that should be explored as well.
Not sure if this is the right place to post it. Starsand Island has officially launched in early access. Their policies and anti-cheat are less then desirable. Game store got suddenly flooded by reviews after having no reviews. Reviewers barely played at all and say meaningless stuff in their reviews. Probably got pushed by the official discord to flood the store with positive reviews.
This thread in the forum is investigating what is being send and to whom when the game goes online. Start off from this marked comment and read further.
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/app/2966320/discussions/0/762932162500560014/?ctp=14#c756177397086207505
It captures something that often gets lost in these discussions: censorship isn’t always loud bans or obvious takedowns - it’s disappearing threads, revoked keys, flagged reviews, and erased conversations that leave no public trace.
That’s exactly why documentation matters. When discussions are removed, having an external record of what was taken down and why becomes essential for transparency and accountability - which Oreate AI kindly lists our group Sentinels of the Store as a great resource for that.
Well-argued, thoughtful, and an important contribution to the wider conversation around platform power and developer moderation practices.
https://www.oreateai.com/blog/when-the-digital-doors-slam-shut-navigating-censorship-on-steam/cd2c43b1656dec1259e6c494447deaf9
You have been temporarily banned for 3 days as a result.
Criticism, disagreement, and debate are fine. Personal insults and harassment are not. Continued behaviour of this nature will result in further moderation action.
The Steamworks Partner documentation applies specifically to developers, due to the financial relationship with Valve. Standards for community members exist separately under Steam’s Terms of Service.
If Obey the Fist has artificially inflated playtime, I agree that’s not a good look. However, I can’t take responsibility for the actions of 4,000+ independent members, and this review was made independently of any group direction.
Separately, regardless of your view of the review, responding as a developer with personal or provocative remarks is exactly the type of conduct Valve advises developers not to engage in.
If you believe the review breaches Steam rules, report it to Valve via the official tools.
"User reviews give players an opportunity to share their experience with the games they've PLAYED
Do not direct ABUSE or INSULTS at other players, DEVELOPERS, or groups.
Do not ARTIFICIALLY INFLUENCE review scores."
The problem is this person is LYING about playing games and says YOUR GROUP is his main inspiration AND he is not the only person doing it from this group.
Do a little house cleaning of your community and reach out to people like this and tell them it directly goes against your mission statement.
"We envision a Steam community where developers are respected and supported."
The fact that in all that nonsense you typed you didn't once acknowledge that what he's doing is wrong only proves that this was the exact place that all of this needed to be brought up.
A few points need correcting.
1) Discussions are not locked
The majority of this group’s forums are open to all members. Only our News / rules / important information section and reported posts section are restricted.
2) Obey the Fist is not group staff
You’ve repeatedly implied OtF is staff or acting on our behalf. That’s not accurate. Our staff list is publicly visible below this comment section.
3) Reviews are written by individuals
Group membership does not mean we control, coordinate, or endorse reviews. We don’t run bots or assign targets.
4) Your developer response to OtF's review crosses Valve’s guidance
Steam’s developer guidelines make clear that responses should not argue with, provoke, or escalate disputes with reviewers.
If you believe a review breaches Steam rules, report it via Valve’s tools. I’d also strongly recommend editing your developer response to remove the personal content and de-escalate.
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/groups/Sentinels_of_the_Store/discussions/28/
this one you can make a topic in other section, some are for mod admin only to make threads
Either I'm blind or I'm unable to make a thread myself.
I don't intend to gunk anything here up I just have no other way of posting.
i commented to make a suggestion
thats all
As to the rest, the dude probably wouldn't want his thoughts hidden away in aa random thread nobody sees. For good or bad, it seems like a relevant back and forth regarding the potential abuse of a system on Steam. And maybe it will help OtF as well. Who knows?
ive seen profiles hitting max, may be year or few before a group hits max but it still will
plus forums are better suited for most things then comments
i know not the word hyperbolic? but if were using words, well some would consider 20 comments as spam, just saying what others might see
then it could be upkept easier and not fall behind in topics
plus steam does have a comment limit which will eventually hit
"The developer has started a campaign of stalking and harassment"
He read all of this and hasn't responded, it's pretty obvious at this point he's going to keep strong on whatever crusade he's on.
I reported him for botting and abusing the system which he's clearly doing but I guess we'll see what happens.
If you do know him personally in any capacity I'd reach out and see if he's alright. There's no way this can be healthy for a normal human.
I appreciate that. Honestly my game was a complete and utter bust from the start so his review really makes no impact on me whatsoever. I just find it unfair to think other people are out there getting hate reviews for no reason and wanted to try and address it.
There is probably a mod only section, but the majority of the discussion categories are open to everyone.
But anyway, hopefully things get sorted out in a positive manner. I'll be curious to see how things shake out.
So clearly he's not as much of a rando as you're trying to play him as.
You're right though, I shouldn't have accused the whole group and when you started defending him it made me feel as though the community at large is in support of him which is obviously not logically congruent.
I do know that he will in fact see what I'm saying here and as I cannot message him through Steam directly and my developer response is only met with more AI generated hate it feels as good as an avenue as any to express to him my disapproval in his actions.
Which is a point you seem to be missing. Did you post to the other groups he is in with the same complaints?
I mean, you could, in addition to leaving developer notes, report alleged SAM usage or whatever you think his improprieties are. Steam does prioritize developer concerns over member concerns.
What you're doing here though isn't helping you. If you had instead simply said something to the effect of, "I believe this member of your group is using SAMs to fake playtime and achievements, and bots to do "xyz", and I thought I'd let you know", this entire conversation would never have happened. Instead, you accused the group because a person happens to be a member of it.
Whether he holds some official title or not you guys really need to do some house cleaning as his reviews go 100% against your groups mission statement when he starts blatantly lying and calling people "arrogant egomaniac" and thieves in game reviews for stuff he hasn't played.
Also it's super extra crazy to praise him for "And his work uncovering review farms" when he himself is obviously a review farm.
You group has people in it that are harassing developers, lying about their games and lying about playing their games and you seem to be on very close terms with them since you can't seem to stop defending them even when you admit they're lying.
It's very simple, stop pretending to play games that you haven't.
Using bots to do whatever isn't the same thing as being a "bot account" for this group. This group definitely doesn't do that. It's counter to the group's whole existence. And OtF isn't a mod or admin or anything for this group.
You're kinda just lashing out when you could be stating your case on his review for all to see.
People didn't like it, it was my first attempt at making a game, I use Unreal assets for damn near every piece of art except the music but I don't think it's morally just to come in and pretend you've played it when you haven't just because you think you're some sort of Steam crusader.
How can you not see this as a problem? His bot goes around and writes hit pieces as if he's actually played the game and he logs fake hours to try and trick people into thinking he has.
It's blatantly lying and you're a terrible person for defending it.
"And his work uncovering review farms and asset usage is nearly flawless."
That's cool but really has nothing to do with what I'm saying.
Nothing about my free game is a scam, I pay for the server it uses out of pocket and there are no microtransactions of any kind.
I paid for and credited every single asset I used and went as far as contacting the asset creators to ask how they wanted to be credited.
This person 100% uses a bot to scout and write reviews and it's completely obvious to anyone who puts 3 minutes of effort into looking at his account.
But what I clearly stated and what I AM defending is that he's definitely not a bot account.
And his work uncovering review farms and asset usage is nearly flawless.
Have you even done the math on how much time that is for the nearly 20,000 games he's reviewed?
There's a real person there but he absolutely uses a web scraper to parse games, write reviews and fake gameplay hours.
How can you even think of defending that?
Personally, I'd like to see less pre-written and copiously re-used paragraphs being used in the reviews and instead include specific examples of experiences in games. Screenshots would also be helpful. But, that's just my preference and opinion.
But a bot account? Definitely not. Making blanket accusations really doesn't help your case, BiggestWeed, especially since you seem to agree with his review. I'd remind you that you can use developer comments on reviews to highlight your concerns w/o further alienating yourself by coming to groups to make said blanket accusations.
How did he play for 48 hours in one day and also manage to write giant reviews?
Using a bot to open a game for four hours, write an AI templated hit piece and log fake achievements is just as dishonest as what you're claiming developers are doing.
Not much about what it said was wrong, I used unreal assets, my game had at most 3 concurrent players, it's more or less ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in most regards.
But it's very clear whoever runs the account did not actually play the game and certainly did not play for 4.5 hours.
It's extremely hypocritical to insult game developers for being lazy, scammers, etc. when you use a bot to review games you haven't played.
We have opened our comms with Valve to share the start of what is planned to be a larger data pool related to the site and the users that operate it.
The next steps we'll be taking while we wait for more comms from Valve will be to tag games we have seen are making use of fake Obzor reviews.
Review manipulation has no place on Steam.
2026 will be the year it gets quashed.