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When people are high on drugs, do they mean it when they say horrible things to you?
If you went to check on someone you know who has a drug addiction and they said horrible things to you while high on weed/meth as if they want to make you hate them and never come back then the next day, you got a call from them and they want to talk about it.

You say “don’t worry about, we’ll grab a coffee catch up later in the week” then you can hear a relief like they don’t want to lose you and appreciate you showing up for a bit when they’re in normal state.

Do they actually mean what they said or is it all the drug doing and they have no control on what they say?
最后由 sleepy 编辑于; 2 小时以前
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It reveals their true feelings.
Yeah they mean it but they'll always be terrible while they're on the drugs.

They're going through a lot and hopeless. Best you can do is say save your coffee money, you need it for meth. Talk to me when you're off it. And don't invite them to your house, they will steal your things and sell it for drugs.
最后由 Iris Vandale 编辑于; 6 小时以前
Did you know the not sees gave mef pills previtin to their soldiers.theyd order like 35 million pills at a time and give them out
引用自 Fake
It reveals their true feelings.
引用自 Iris Vandale
They're going through a lot and hopeless. Best you can do is say save your coffee money, you need it for meth. Talk to me when you're off it. And don't invite them to your house, they will steal your things and sell it for drugs.
Damn that hurts :(

She comes across as a Deb character from Dexter, very talkative but you can tell she’s lonely, broken and has no one to talk to.

She’s been in my house and car before, never vandalize, stole a thing and knew how to keep quiet. I’m not sure why but they tend to be paranoid so I think i’m one of those “guys” she wouldn’t because she knows I know too much about her.

I know she steals a lot and likes to give me a stuff or two (always shake my head in disbelief) without acknowledging she stole it lol
最后由 sleepy 编辑于; 6 小时以前
The same thing goes for alcohol.
substances can make folk more easily willing to share thoughts or feelings they keep secret, or more open about themselves or their opinions. it does not necessarily mean they hate you, or even believe that what they are saying is true. but it does mean that they were at the very least thinking about it, and being intoxicated loosened their lips enough to let it slip. anyone who claims that they "had no control" is not being honest.

have a talk with your friend about it, you describe your friend as having a bit of a chipped shoulder. it is possible she has some grievances to air, but is not a bad person.
It depends. I had someone I knew (a family member) do something terrible to me while they were on meth; I know they would have never done that off the drug. I brought it up to them later and asked them why they did that if they love me, and they didn't even remember doing it. They told me that all you can think about is the drug and that you can't really love while on it.
Substance abuse reveals the truth hidden behind many people and their facades. When they return to the land of the sober, they might recall their actions and feel an amount of shame, but it doesn't mean what they said or did whilst inebriated should ever be tolerated.
It highly depends on what they took. The quantity. And, of course, the person's him/her self.

There's some drugs out there that are so strong, it can quite literally cause you to forget who you're even talking to. But, that ain't the norm.

More often than not. It's a very amplified version of themselves. Picture it like this. If you are very social from the get go you just become even more sociable. Unfortunately same can be said for some rather negative emotions. That's why some mental conditions mixed with certain drugs is a very bad cocktail.

At least, this is the way I see it. The way I experienced it. I mean, interacting with addicts. I was working night shift in a convenience store over there quite a couple years ago. So, I've seen a lot of those people. Especially past the hour when bars closed.
引用自 Thermal Lance
It highly depends on what they took. The quantity. And, of course, the person's him/her self.

There's some drugs out there that are so strong, it can quite literally cause you to forget who you're even talking to. But, that ain't the norm.

More often than not. It's a very amplified version of themselves. Picture it like this. If you are very social from the get go you just become even more sociable. Unfortunately same can be said for some rather negative emotions. That's why some mental conditions mixed with certain drugs is a very bad cocktail.

At least, this is the way I see it. The way I experienced it. I mean, interacting with addicts. I was working night shift in a convenience store over there quite a couple years ago. So, I've seen a lot of those people. Especially past the hour when bars closed.

thats a good way to put it. being intoxicated generally makes one less uninhibited, more willing to share and "be themselves" or do things without fear. an amplified version of themselves is not always a good thing, as some folk are having obnoxious personality traits they keep well hidden that only reveal themselves when under the influence.

you can definitely be "so high you have no idea what is happening", but i find this is usually bad trips from inexperienced users. i used a lot of drugs very heavily for years when i was a teenager and in early uni, and even in my most blindingly brain soaked moments i never felt like i was not in full control of my actions. i was able to convince myself to think about doing stupid things more easily, but i still had final say and i never felt a lack of control.

so when peoples give the excuse of they were not "themselves" when they did terrible things under the influence, i do not believe them. but at the same time do not necessarily believe they are bad peoples, even if they say or did bad things when under the influence. people are complex, talking helps.
Because people like to take substances to take the edge off, it's been a part of human civilization since the very beginning around the Euphrates river and it will continue forever as much as authorities and brainwashed idiots will try to control it, suppress it, and lie about it. It's a vague broad category of consumable items that people take for millions of different reasons and some of which is not very harmful in small amounts, and people don't define what they're mostly talking about in the first place because it would ruin their narrative and soccer mommy and daddy fear-mongering.

I'll be blunt about it, most of the demand is still pot, coke, and alcohol. That's still the vast majority of the illicit, evil drug trade. Not fentanyl. Sure, to some extent pills and in fact people put on a facade of being sober by taking prescription meds excessively sometimes as well.

I'm not condoning any of that necessarily either way, but I also believe that people shouldn't be told what they can or cannot do to themselves as far as this type of thing goes, with some obvious exceptions and when it gets extreme and someone NEEDS rehab or whatever, sure I get that and not saying otherwise.

I believe in positive liberty and not negative liberty. I think the war on drugs has done much more harm than good to say the very least, to put it very lightly. I think that the fear mongering about drugs also plays into the propaganda that the police want to inject into society including with how the media and pop culture injects copaganda into society.

They don't want to lose control, they want you to be complacent and "behave".

That means, don't be honest. Don't be happy. Serve your corporate masters and bow down and put on that suburbanite Karen soccer mommy and daddy face.

Define "mean things". People do mean things and are mean, who sometimes deserve to have mean things said to them, and vice versa. I'm tired of all of the one sided, "oh look at me I'm special and the good guy and correct, believe me etc" sort of scenarios that are regurgitated all over online. That in and of itself is a FACADE.

Anyway, being less honest, conforming to some "standards" on the surface with how you "appear" to others, etc, as long as you are sober, does absolutely does not mean anyone is better than anyone.

Maybe if those anti drug ads that lie about weed so much were more honest and less anti-weed then more kids would've believed the anti drug ads warning against more serious drugs that are actually very dangerous, you know like alcohol. Something so many "upstanding" citizens, like cops, go home to drink.

Oh and you gotta love these "law abiding" federal agents, cops etc you meet at bars who do tons of coke. Ah yes, very upstanding and law abiding. True story.
最后由 Disgruntled Cuttlefish 编辑于; 5 小时以前
I believe in positive liberty and not negative liberty. I think the war on drugs has done much more harm than good to say the very least, to put it very lightly. I think that the fear mongering about drugs also plays into the propaganda that the police want to inject into society including with how the media and pop culture injects copaganda into society.
the whole drugs aren't that bad train of thought falls apart when you get harassed by a tweaker high on meth in any major city and the cops won't do anything about it
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引用自 Thermal Lance
It highly depends on what they took. The quantity. And, of course, the person's him/her self.

There's some drugs out there that are so strong, it can quite literally cause you to forget who you're even talking to. But, that ain't the norm.

More often than not. It's a very amplified version of themselves. Picture it like this. If you are very social from the get go you just become even more sociable. Unfortunately same can be said for some rather negative emotions. That's why some mental conditions mixed with certain drugs is a very bad cocktail.

At least, this is the way I see it. The way I experienced it. I mean, interacting with addicts. I was working night shift in a convenience store over there quite a couple years ago. So, I've seen a lot of those people. Especially past the hour when bars closed.

thats a good way to put it. being intoxicated generally makes one less uninhibited, more willing to share and "be themselves" or do things without fear. an amplified version of themselves is not always a good thing, as some folk are having obnoxious personality traits they keep well hidden that only reveal themselves when under the influence.

you can definitely be "so high you have no idea what is happening", but i find this is usually bad trips from inexperienced users. i used a lot of drugs very heavily for years when i was a teenager and in early uni, and even in my most blindingly brain soaked moments i never felt like i was not in full control of my actions. i was able to convince myself to think about doing stupid things more easily, but i still had final say and i never felt a lack of control.

so when peoples give the excuse of they were not "themselves" when they did terrible things under the influence, i do not believe them. but at the same time do not necessarily believe they are bad peoples, even if they say or did bad things when under the influence. people are complex, talking helps.

I fully agree. In every scenario I describe, that person is still him/her self. I do not imply the person is gone when taking those very serious drugs. It's just that they can literally forget who you are. Still here but you're like a stranger to them until they come back down. You know? Too much in their heads to process who you are.

Unfortunately, I've seen people like this. It's not fun.
Extensive abuse of recreational drugs causes problems financially and psychologically. Someone who abuses hard drugs every day can't be trusted.
Personally, the only drugs I do are: Weed (Which I'm currently doing a 3 weeks break. ) and sometimes but rarely... Yeah, weed is legal is my country so I don't really mind saying it but the other one I'll keep it to myself. Mostly because I often forget the platform is 13 up. Better not give the wrong ideas.

But, to keep it family friendly as they say. It's not that big of a deal. Especially not with the quantity and frequency I do that.
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