Alxndr 11 月 15 日 下午 9:09
The Steam Machine is NOT for hardcore PC gamers!!
Bros I'm sick and tired of seeing people complaining that the Steam Machine isn't powerful enough to replace their existing high end gaming PC, it's driving me nuts.

That's not what it's intended purpose is for... Let me lay out the facts for you.

  • 31% of users have a 4060 or higher / AMD equivalent GPU.
  • 33.7% of users have a 1440p or higher res monitor.
  • 35.9% of users have 32GB or more RAM.
  • 20.7% of users have a 3ghz or higher CPU.

So all you with your "fancy" 4090s or 50 series cards running 32inch 4k oled monitors are actually the outliers in the gaming world. Steam basically just looked at what the hardware was that the majority of its users didn't have, and built a budget gaming PC around those specs.

I myself would also love to replace my gaming PC with a Steam machine because I want to support Steam and I think it's dope, but I'm just not the right customer for this PC and that's fine.

But there are millions of Steam users who this steam machine would be a major upgrade for, and millions more users who want living room couch gaming but without sacrificing their steam library.

This is the first generation of this machine folks, I'm sure in the future steam will release a machine with better specs like a pro version that could start appealing to 4070 gpu+ users.

But let's be real, it's never going to be an AMD 7800X3D, liquid cooled 4090 gaming monster simply because that defeats the entire purpose of this product, which is to scoop up console couch gamers into the steam ecosystem and to give lower income people a good solid reliable average gaming PC.

You think there's a lot of steam users now? Wait until this thing starts gaining popularity, steam may very well scoop up 30% of the entire console population which is like a 100million+ potential addressable market.
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The_Abortionator 11 月 15 日 下午 10:41 
I also love hearing people with 4060s trying to clown on it saying its mobile parts which is literally the most insane take iv've hearf. Like, 200w laptop parts? Really?
Alice Liddell 11 月 15 日 下午 10:47 
I will just install SteamOS and turn my rig into a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ custom Steam Machine, call it Steamware HCM.
Alxndr 11 月 15 日 下午 11:19 
引用自 Alice Liddell
I will just install SteamOS and turn my rig into a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ custom Steam Machine, call it Steamware HCM.

SteamOS isn't what makes a computer as steam machine though, it's the semi custom hardware steam is using in the machine. They're not using off the shelf parts, they have partnered with amd to design the cpu sand gpu specifically for steamos and gaming.

If it was as simple as installing steamos and that would be it, nobody would buy the computer and would just install the os.
wing0zero 11 月 16 日 上午 12:23 
引用自 The_Abortionator
I also love hearing people with 4060s trying to clown on it saying its mobile parts which is literally the most insane take iv've hearf. Like, 200w laptop parts? Really?
Yes really, it's a 30W CPU with a 110W GPU, same as a higher end laptop when plugged in, the laptop 5090 can draw up to 160W max, I don't see how it seems "insane".
That's probably why the CPU and GPU are embedded and not in a normal socket/pcie slot, just like a laptop.

I mean it seems obvious it even uses laptop SODIMM RAM.
最后由 wing0zero 编辑于; 11 月 16 日 上午 12:57
I agree with the overall point you're making that it's not intended for the top quintile or two, but you seem to be doing a bit of the same thing in the opposite direction. Having some concerns that it might be a bit short in some regards (while understanding what market conditions led to it being that way) and also thinking it will be fine despite it, is also a valid position.

Right now, I think complaining about hardware is a bit moot anyway until prices become known.
引用自 Alxndr
  • 35.9% of users have 32GB or more RAM.
A correction, but 36% of people have exactly 32 GB of RAM, not 32 GB or more. The number of people with 32 GB or more is 43.5%, or if you also include the rest of those above 16 GB (but below 32 GB) then it becomes 46%.

Those with 16 GB are another 41.5%.

Those with less than 16 GB are 12.5%. Typically, many of those in the bottom end of any market are people who are unable or unwilling to spend much (they may be people who get hand-me-downs) meaning there's sometimes less opportunity there.

Of course, this is only looking at Steam's market numbers and not any potential new market. Since I doubt they're chasing sales totals that rival some of the better selling consoles anyway, these numbers may be enough.

The RAM/VRAM amount were likely chosen in part because of market conditions with RAM pricing. If it were to have 32 GB RAM and/or 16 GB VRAM but with the same CPU or GPU, then it probably wouldn't gain enough new buyers to offset the extra cost to double the RAM, meaning... it wasn't worth doing it. But at the same time, it will bring concerns for some people, and those concerns are valid for them regardless of how much it does/doesn't sell. Running Linux will help the RAM go further, but they may not be doing themselves favors by advertising it as 4K/60 FPS so much. If the settings need reduced more than people expect, it could create bad will.
引用自 Alxndr
  • 20.7% of users have a 3ghz or higher CPU.
This one is pretty pointless to look at. This is reporting base speed and not boost speed (which most CPUs have these days), and clock speed doesn't tell everything about level of performance anyway.
最后由 Illusion of Progress 编辑于; 11 月 16 日 上午 12:43
smokerob79 11 月 16 日 上午 4:06 
引用自 The_Abortionator
I also love hearing people with 4060s trying to clown on it saying its mobile parts which is literally the most insane take iv've hearf. Like, 200w laptop parts? Really?


its the laptop versions do to the specs.....it lines up with the laptop version on things like ROPs and core count.....but never mind what the engineers that made it said.....yes its running 200 watts do to being clocked higher then the laptop version but its almost spot on with the laptop version on most of its other specs....
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