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Lord Tony 11 月 26 日 下午 8:02
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My sole intention when starting this discussion was to clarify current Steam content rules, as I was initially unsure if content related to the AO-rated game Hatred was permitted.

Since receiving the answer to my question pages ago, this thread has devolved into an abusive environment. I am now being cyberbullied, stalked, and harassed over Duke Nukem screenshots that were posted 13 years ago.

Screenshots that are fully clothed and even used as an steam achievement. The content is no worse than the point shop. There is THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of screenshots like mine in that community hub with thousands of likes and views. Mine only had 7 views in the span of 13 years.

Furthermore, I am being slandered and accused of knowingly posting these screenshots in violation of the rules 13 years ago. If I had known the content was inappropriate, I would have expected some form of repercussion or notification within that 13-year period. 13 years is a long time.

The original question has been answered,
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引用自 MonkehMaster:
sorry OP, this is how some act on steam and its best to, block and ignore them (report if needed).

you said they were fully clothed and such?

if thats the case, did you make a ticket to support? cause its likely, its not against the rules.

while not exactly similar or adult material lol..., i had a related situation with a piece of profile "artwork".

i had (well i still have it...) an artwork, that was simply a basic animated image that displayed my pc specs and mentioned twitch at the bottom, the artwork had been on my profile for i dont know how many years... think it was like 6-7 years or so.

and while my profile was private, said artwork couldnt be private, due to valve crappy system, needing it to be public, on a private profile, to be set as a showcase...

needless to say, some peeps report abused it, it got banned for "advertising", i brought it to support and they told me "applied correctly" and closed my ticket.

i took it on the chin and went to report profiles with advertising on them, just to test the theory and needless to say, all the profiles i reported with said "advertising" which also included direct donation links to "support" the person and found that the profiles werent being handled and said "advertising" was not being banned.

so, i made a ticket to support, linked profiles i had reported and mentioned why isnt this stuff banned? they told me its not bannable and was allowed on profiles...

i said, oh thats interesting, then why was my (insert years here) artwork banned a month ago for "advertising" and uploaded the picture to them, then their reply was, "it shouldnt have been banned".

so in summation, support, moderation and the report abuse that goes on in the steam forums, is simply to play games with what is or isnt "rule breaking", because some either dont know the rules, or have some bias issues on the people here on steam.

that all said, i could put it right back up, but as this is steam, i would fully expect, despite not against the rules, that some would report abuse again and certain support members would ban it, then i again would have to waste my time and correct the crappy mistakes of staff, whom seemingly ignore actual rules, to cause you issues, waste your time and add to your "moderation history", for no reason.

in any case, take this thread and the situation as a lesson, that report abuse exists and people will report things despite it not being against the rules, as well as... forum users end up on the wrong end of the stick and have to sit around correcting the jobs being done around here, due to failed comprehension of valve rules and such.

side note: these type of things is the perfect example, of why private profiles are needed, but also points out that people know and also tell others, how to bypass profile privacy, to look at the contents and find stuff "wrong" to cause people issues.

also, i think bringing up to support and suggesting resolution, to profile privacy be looked into, because people shouldnt be able to tack stuff onto a web link and find content from your profile, that they shouldnt be able to see, or find.

anywho, good luck, hope you sort the issue and have a nice day :gk_smile:
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ReBoot 11 月 26 日 下午 8:12 
Whatever an "AO game" is, if a game itself contains nudity, it's fine. If it doesn't, then it's not fine. It's actually pretty simple.
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ReBoot 11 月 26 日 下午 8:33 
引用自 Skeletony：
I think there is only 1 AO game on steam that doesn't have nudity (hatred) so I can't upload nude screenshots despite it being an AO game?
In case I'm not obvious, when I said "whatever an AO game is" meaning I don't know what you mean by that term.
引用自 Skeletony：
These rules are confusing
The rule is extraordinary simple: if a game has questionable content X, then uploading screenshots of X is fine. If a game doesn't contain questionable content X, then it's not fine. So were you to, let's say, install a gore mod for Horse Farm, you should not upload screenshots of it. Should you install an ice cream mod, you could upload screenshots as ice cream isn't questionable. It really is THAT simple!
引用自 Skeletony：
or you mean I can't take screenshots of a mod?

So rust for example is M, I can take screenshots of the nudity?
We're talking about uploading here, not taking. When it comes to taking screenshots, do whatever you want.
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cSg|mc-Hotsauce 11 月 26 日 下午 8:55 
A game marked mature for violence and gore is not the same as one that is mature for nudity and sexual content. These are 2 separate ratings.

And game dev and/or support can moderate screenshots/artwork with nudity in game hubs not marked mature for nudity or sexual content.

:nkCool:
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cSg|mc-Hotsauce 11 月 26 日 下午 9:27 
引用自 Skeletony：
hatred isn't marked for mature it's m arked for adults only.

It's literally the reason porn games are allowed on steam now despite not being a porn game.

exteme violence and porn gets lumped into AO.

This game is not M.

Frequent Violence or Gore (2), General Mature Content (5) is not the same as Some Nudity or Sexual Content (1), Adult Only Sexual Content (3), Frequent Nudity or Sexual Content (4).

:nkCool:
最后由 cSg|mc-Hotsauce 编辑于; 11 月 26 日 下午 9:28
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Apathetic 11 月 26 日 下午 9:30 
引用自 ReBoot：
引用自 Skeletony：
I think there is only 1 AO game on steam that doesn't have nudity (hatred) so I can't upload nude screenshots despite it being an AO game?
In case I'm not obvious, when I said "whatever an AO game is" meaning I don't know what you mean by that term.
引用自 Skeletony：
These rules are confusing
The rule is extraordinary simple: if a game has questionable content X, then uploading screenshots of X is fine. If a game doesn't contain questionable content X, then it's not fine. So were you to, let's say, install a gore mod for Horse Farm, you should not upload screenshots of it. Should you install an ice cream mod, you could upload screenshots as ice cream isn't questionable. It really is THAT simple!
引用自 Skeletony：
or you mean I can't take screenshots of a mod?

So rust for example is M, I can take screenshots of the nudity?
We're talking about uploading here, not taking. When it comes to taking screenshots, do whatever you want.

Idk man. I feel like if I edit the game to add the most incomprehensibly horrendous stuff, I should be allowed to upload it. . . . thats a joke btw . . .
最后由 Apathetic 编辑于; 11 月 26 日 下午 9:31
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Sciencemile 11 月 26 日 下午 9:36 
引用自 Skeletony：
引用自 cSg|mc-Hotsauce：

Frequent Violence or Gore (2), General Mature Content (5) is not the same as Some Nudity or Sexual Content (1), Adult Only Sexual Content (3), Frequent Nudity or Sexual Content (4).

:nkCool:

This game is not marked M for mature, are you not understanding?

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"This game is marked as 'Adult Only'. You are seeing this game because you have set your preferences to allow this content."
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This above disclaimer will be below the game's storefront videos and screenshots if the game is marked as "Adult only" by Steam.

Hatred is marked as "Adult Only" by the ESRB, but not by Steam, which has rated it "Mature", requiring only that you enter your birth date before reaching the storefront page.
最后由 Sciencemile 编辑于; 11 月 26 日 下午 9:37
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Sciencemile 11 月 26 日 下午 9:40 
引用自 Skeletony：

No hatred is marked AO on steam, it's literally the reason valve allowed AO games which is why we have an influx of porn games.

Then you will be able to provide a screenshot of the storefront page with that "Adults Only" disclaimer to demonstrate that you are correct.

However if you are looking at the Black And White "AO" that is the ESRB Rating.

Your claims don't match up with the facts. You are committing an equivocation fallacy, because "AO" means something different to the ESRB than it does to Steam.
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The nameless Gamer 11 月 26 日 下午 9:40 
Steam has TWO different content filters. One for violent content, another one for sexual content. It's pretty clearly separated in the store preferences into two columns.
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Sciencemile 11 月 26 日 下午 9:42 
引用自 The nameless Gamer：
Steam has TWO different content filters. One for violent content, another one for sexual content. It's pretty clearly separated in the store preferences into two columns.

He is looking at the ESRB Rating, which is "AO" and incorrectly equating it to Steam's "AO" rating, which has a different standard.
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Sciencemile 11 月 26 日 下午 10:04 
引用自 Skeletony：
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Valve literally made a point to allow this game which is the reason AO games are now on steam

Are you willing to accept that what Steam calls "AO" and what the ESRB calls "AO" are different things?
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ReamedBySteem 11 月 26 日 下午 11:30 
I'm nude right now.

Well, it's a body stocking because leery cellmate.
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🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊 11 月 27 日 上午 12:46 
引用自 Skeletony：
Are you guys trolling me? It says AO on the store page

https://psteamproxy.yuanyoumao.com/app/341940/Hatred/
I just went to look at that game on Steam and there is nothing anywhere on it's store page that has anything to do with the game being Adults Only, here, on steam. It may be flagged as AO elsewhere in the world or on the internet. Other websites and other places in the world or on the internet that classify games (Like the ESRB) has nothing at all to do with steam and how steam classifies or rates a game. If a game is flagged as AO by either Twitch (for streaming) or by the ESRB that does NOT mean that it is also an AO game on Steam. Currently Hatred on Steam is NOT AO at all. It is only M, on steam.

To answer your original question: This game originally, unmodified, does NOT contain nudity of any sort. If you have any nude screenshots of this game that you managed to get by installing a 3rd party mod to modify the original game then NO you can NOT post screenshots of nudity, from a mod, for that game, here on steam.
最后由 🦊Λℚ𝓤ΛƑΛᗯҜᔕ🦊 编辑于; 11 月 27 日 上午 12:51
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AustrAlien2010 11 月 27 日 上午 12:56 
It can be embarrassing, if you show images without context, and people might not understand. But if you have a game and show the images to people who also have that game, they might understand its context and not feel embarrassed.

Or maybe you can explain why you show these images to them? If an audience understands what you are trying to accomplish by showing them those images, they could perhaps be more lenient towards those images.
最后由 AustrAlien2010 编辑于; 11 月 27 日 上午 10:59
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Wolfpig 11 月 27 日 上午 12:59 
Not sure if someone answers the initial question....
But if valve did not change stuff then nude pics uploaded to steam are not allowed..... even if the game itself can be bought here.
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d3str0y3r 11 月 27 日 上午 1:42 
引用自 Skeletony：
引用自 Sciencemile：

Are you willing to accept that what Steam calls "AO" and what the ESRB calls "AO" are different things?

it's AO

ESRB rated it AO.... which again is not the same as what Valve considers AO. Which is all that matters for posting nude screenshots.
最后由 d3str0y3r 编辑于; 11 月 27 日 上午 1:45
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