The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth

The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth

Mei
Nettobrocken 2017 年 1 月 15 日 下午 12:41
Synergies suggestions (WIP)
We all know that Ipecac & Co. don't work with her, but sure somebody got an idea how Mei could use them. (If you got one, just write it down)

E.g. Ipecac should/could/must explode when the tear is as far away as Mei can throw it.
Cancer (Trinket) should/could/must dublicate the tears.
最后由 Nettobrocken 编辑于; 2017 年 1 月 15 日 下午 12:59
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Nettobrocken 2017 年 1 月 15 日 上午 10:11 
No synergies (WIP)
We all love her but something's wrong with her.

Here is a small list of effects and items which won't work with Mei, even if Loli already told us or if it`s logic.
(I will update the list, after playing more with her):

Acid Tears,
erohW of Babylon (if a HP-up was taken),
Ipecac,
Marked,
Analog Stick,
Pencil (does only work, when entering a Room),
Evil Eye (does only work, when entering a Room),
Piercing shots (Yes, I know),
Spectral tears (Yes, I know),
Mom's Eye
Continuum (does work, but glitchy)
The Ludovico Technique
Maw of the Void
Every kind of fused bomb(!)
The worm trinkets

Loli's Commend (cutted)

Anti Gravity
Cursed Eye
Dead Dove
Dead Eye
Epic Fetus
Epiphora
Isaac's Heart
Loki's Horns
Bouncy Tears
Homing Tears
Tammy's Head
Tiny Planet
Tough Love
The Wiz
Incubus
Epiphora
Dead Eye
Pupula Duplex
Tractor Beam
Evil Eye
Dead Tooth
Eye of Greed
Glaucoma
Eye of Belial
Ghost Pepper
Large Zit



Rag Mega's Orbitals aren't affected by her shots.
The copy of you (enemy in the womb) will always shoot.
"The Soul"Champion-enemys can't push away her tears.
Her tears can still break stuff when she's not throwing them (Stuff ≠ Enemys)
最后由 Nettobrocken 编辑于; 2017 年 1 月 17 日 上午 7:38
goki_dev  [开发者] 2017 年 1 月 15 日 上午 11:16 
This list will be quite helpful, thanks!
Nettobrocken 2017 年 1 月 15 日 上午 11:27 
引用自 Loli
This list will be quite helpful, thanks!

Anything for the Programmer.
Iffy | Nihme 2017 年 1 月 15 日 下午 1:51 
Another for the list, Maw of the Void doesn't seem to work with Mei, the black ring never charges. I adore the mod though, great work.
Orii7 2017 年 1 月 15 日 下午 3:33 
Dead tooth also doesn't work
Nettobrocken 2017 年 1 月 16 日 上午 7:15 
引用自 GameWolfy | Nihme
Another for the list, Maw of the Void doesn't seem to work with Mei, the black ring never charges. I adore the mod though, great work.
引用自 Orii7
Dead tooth also doesn't work

Noticed
da_fritzi 2017 年 1 月 16 日 上午 11:10 
The easiest way to make ipecac work would be to put in a tear height down that activates upon picking up ipecac. This essentially makes your tears eplode a soon as they touch something.
This however would turn ipecac into a very risky item choice.

Another possibility would be to replicate the original arc ipecac shots had. Take the maximum distance the shot is going to travel away from mei, increase the tear height up until halfway there than reduce it to 0 on the way to said max distance, might be hard to program though.

And yes both of thos require a new tear to be spawned after the old one exploded. The new one should spawn the next time the currently empty spot passes by behind mei, otherwise it would instakill everything.
goki_dev  [开发者] 2017 年 1 月 16 日 下午 6:00 
I went through and checked every relevant item. The confirmed synergies list is based on the most recent development version.

All tear variant and stat modifiers should work out of the box.

Confirmed Working Synergies
  • 20/20
  • 3 Dollar Bill
  • Ball of Tar
  • Blood Clot
  • Brimstone
  • Chemical Peel
  • Chocolate Milk
  • The Common Cold
  • Dark Matter
  • Death's Touch
  • Dr Fetus
  • Fire Mind
  • Godhead
  • Inner eye
  • Ipecac
  • Iron Bar
  • Lost Contact
  • Lump of Coal
  • Mom's Contact
  • Mom's Eyeshadow
  • Mom's Knife
  • Mom's Perfume
  • Monstro's Lung
  • Mutant Spider
  • Mysterious Liquid
  • Pisces
  • Proptosis
  • Scorpio
  • Spider Bite
  • Tech.5
  • Technology
  • Technology 2
  • Tech X
  • 8 Inch Nails
  • Holy Light
  • Serpent's Kiss
  • Explosivo
  • Crown of Light
  • Fruit Cake
  • Head of the Keeper
  • Kidney Stone
  • Compound Fracture
  • Sinus Infection
  • Parasitoid
  • Sulfuric Acid
  • Jacob's Ladder
  • Euthanasia
  • Little Horn
  • Backstabber
  • Pinky Eye
  • Pulse Worm
  • Flat Worm
  • Nose Goblin
  • Black Tooth
  • Anti Gravity
  • Analog Stick
  • Cricket's Body
  • Cupid's Arrow
  • Cursed Eye
  • Epiphora
  • Mom's Eye
  • Sacred Heart
  • Spoon Bender
  • Saggitarius
  • Sulfuric Acid
  • Telepathy for Dummies
  • The Wiz
  • Epiphora
  • Tractor Beam
  • Maw of the Void
  • Evil Eye
  • Dead Tooth
  • Lead Pencil
  • Eye of Greed
  • Push Pin
  • Eye of Belial
  • Ghost Pepper
  • Epic Fetus
  • Marked
  • Ludovico
  • Rubber Cement
  • Rubber Ball
  • Loki's Horns
  • Isaac's Heart
  • Continuum
  • Dead Eye
  • Pupula Duplex
  • Tiny Planet
  • Tough Love
  • Glaucoma
  • Large Zit
  • Ring / Wiggle / Hook / Ouroboros / Whatever Worm
  • Guillotine
  • Scissors
  • Red Candle
  • Blue Candle
  • Sacrificial Dagger
  • Second Hand

Missing / Problematic / Irrelevant Synergies
  • Dead Dove
  • Dead Onion
  • Ouija Board
  • Tammy's Head
  • Incubus
  • Multidimensional Baby
最后由 goki_dev 编辑于; 2017 年 3 月 3 日 上午 3:38
Nettobrocken 2017 年 1 月 17 日 上午 6:51 
Does
引用自 Loli
Confirmed Synergies
mean working or not working?
Orii7 2017 年 1 月 17 日 上午 7:00 
引用自 VonPech
Does
引用自 Loli
Confirmed Synergies
mean working or not working?
Working
Basileus Hael 2017 年 1 月 19 日 下午 12:20 
I love this character, I hope the items that do absolutely nothing will be fixed soon to do Something (even if small changes that are barely noticible, better than nothing at all right?)
Nettobrocken 2017 年 1 月 20 日 上午 8:00 
引用自 Spacecore2
post-it note is on the Random icon
I don't understand what you mean with this sentence.
Spacecore2 2017 年 1 月 20 日 下午 2:20 
引用自 VonPech
I don't understand what you mean with this sentence.
I was an idiot, disregard.
cirloBD 2017 年 1 月 21 日 上午 3:44 
I think ipecac should still increas damage, reduce tears and make them poisoned and on top of all, when a tear reachs its max range it GENERATES an explosion (the tear does not explode itself)
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