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TURKIYE☪EMINƎM 2016 年 12 月 30 日 下午 5:10
Javelins are Insane. (+ How to fix them yourself)
They just tear through armor and shields like its paper. My Teutonic Brother Knights (which are one of the best cavalry units in the game) get 1-hit headshoted in 30 meters distance. I have tested it when i invaded a castle, which is separeted by a river from the spawn location. I placed my archers on the bank of the river (which is 40 meters minimum from their javelinmen) and they got slaughtered. I don't mind the damage, but the accuracy and shield penetration is an overkill. Either lower the damage, or make them inaccurate. They can't be both, and people are asking you to nerf them. If you don't want to, please then make an option in-game to make them weaker. In sieges enemy units throw their javelins and kill 60% of your men. when your men get there (i am talking about elite infantry) they kill enough enemies so they spawn reinforcments. Those reinforcments kill the other 40% and throw the javelins to my reinforcments and the cycle repeats. I ain't mad too much until ♥♥♥♥ing units not designed to throw javelins (Baltic Noblemen i think) start throwing them like super men. PLEASE NERF THEM FOR GODS SAKE!

*FIX*

http://www.mbrepository.com/file.php?id=567

Download it then when it asks you for a file to change, go to steamapps, and then to workshop and then content. Open folder 48700, then 770266833, and open the item_kinds1. It will open a window, and from there you can do it yourself. If you don't want to mess around with the javelin accuracy and speed, copy the Native Warband javelins from item editor (and make special javelins like lithuanian ones a bit tougher.) And that is it.
最后由 TURKIYE☪EMINƎM 编辑于; 2017 年 1 月 10 日 上午 10:53
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TURKIYE☪EMINƎM 2016 年 12 月 30 日 下午 6:16 
Also the Defenders have infinite ammo, Which is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Javelinmen throw 8 javelins, wait a bit then throw 8 more. Its like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ machine gun. You figure this out when 50 javelins are being thrown every 5 seconds. 2 javelins are needed to ♥♥♥♥ up your shield, 1 to kill you, so tell me is this supposed to be fun? 1200 men get beaten by 300 after an hour and a half of micromanaging and sniping units of the walls? Just fix this please and this mod will be one of the greatest! If anyone knows a tactic to get around this, then please tell me because i'm really confused if this is what is supposed to happen?
最后由 TURKIYE☪EMINƎM 编辑于; 2016 年 12 月 31 日 下午 1:56
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ponsemen_bg 2017 年 1 月 4 日 下午 9:28 
There is no other tactic :steammocking:
They said that it will be nerfed in the next patch but when is the next patch.... emm i don't know !?
Is an Awessome mod but i stop playing it becose of that ♥♥♥♥ , am just waithing for the patch!
#2
TURKIYE☪EMINƎM 2017 年 1 月 5 日 上午 7:19 
引用自 ponsemen_bg：
There is no other tactic :steammocking:
They said that it will be nerfed in the next patch but when is the next patch.... emm i don't know !?
Is an Awessome mod but i stop playing it becose of that ♥♥♥♥ , am just waithing for the patch!

You can Nerf them yourself in the item editor. Thats what i did, and now it is fine.
#3
ponsemen_bg 2017 年 1 月 5 日 下午 9:49 
What editor , where the ♥♥♥♥ is that thingy!??? Pls
#4
bestreducer 2017 年 1 月 6 日 上午 3:23 
it looks like this javelins needs nerf. by the way, in most of games balanced javelins looks hilarious - horse get one to head and run further as before. prophecy of pendor have a horse with 150 armor which works like shield.
#5
TURKIYE☪EMINƎM 2017 年 1 月 6 日 上午 8:48 
引用自 ponsemen_bg：
There is no other tactic :steammocking:
They said that it will be nerfed in the next patch but when is the next patch.... emm i don't know !?
Is an Awessome mod but i stop playing it becose of that ♥♥♥♥ , am just waithing for the patch!

http://www.mbrepository.com/file.php?id=567

Download it then when it asks you for a file to change, go to steamapps, and then to workshop and then content. Open folder 48700, then 770266833, and open the item_kinds1. It will open a window, and from there you can do it yourself.
#6
ponsemen_bg 2017 年 1 月 6 日 下午 8:56 
Thanks Kofix , realy apriciated man!
#7
TURKIYE☪EMINƎM 2017 年 1 月 7 日 上午 8:21 
No problem, glad i could help!
#8
Rich Cop 2017 年 1 月 7 日 下午 6:40 
What did you set the value to for the Javelin? I want to nerf it, but I also want it balanced.
#9
TURKIYE☪EMINƎM 2017 年 1 月 7 日 下午 7:29 
Open the Native Item_kinds1 that is in the Mount and blade Folder, and copy the values from the vanilla javelins to the Mod javelins. Special javelins (example: Lithuanian Javelins) make just a bit stronger, for balancing purposes. Also test it ingame, and see if you like it. You have to tweak it to get it perfect. Thats what i did.
#10
Rich Cop 2017 年 1 月 7 日 下午 7:29 
Many Thanks!
#11
Steee 2017 年 1 月 10 日 下午 4:32 
but the entire point of realism is that javilins 1hit armor just like irl but they're very limited (3-5 max ammo)
#12
TURKIYE☪EMINƎM 2017 年 1 月 10 日 下午 5:37 
引用自 Steee：
but the entire point of realism is that javilins 1hit armor just like irl but they're very limited (3-5 max ammo)

Yeah but defenders have infinite ammo, and javelins shouldn't go through steel armor that easy. The main point of the javelin is to get through the shields (That is their one and only job, getting javelins through wood was easy, so Anglo-Saxons used it to break shield walls). They were garbage at penetrating armor, since you would need a heavier javelin, but no body could throw it accurately then. Also the ai can headshot you easily so yeah, they are overpowered.
#13
rolypoly 2017 年 2 月 4 日 上午 9:33 
Nobody should have infinite ammo. Is there way to change that part?
#14
Steee 2017 年 2 月 4 日 上午 11:44 
tbh the way to fix this is to allow the attackers troops to use their ranged weapons
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