Hearts of Iron IV

Hearts of Iron IV

China National Focus
Gen.Feldm.Rommel  [개발자] 2017년 4월 18일 오후 2시 42분
Chinese History 101
For this I will answer any questions about history, events, and focus in the mod and in real life so ask away
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The Wild West Pyro 2017년 5월 11일 오전 4시 20분 
Um...the topic I have to ask is very dark.


If you go down the KMT political path, the final stop is the "Black Laboratory", where it mentions human experimentation.


I'm Chinese myself, and unfortunately that refers to one of the most horrific atrocities performed by Japan in the war, that I'm not going to mention or I'm gonna feel physically ill again.


But my main question is, did the KMT ever do this? Because that little thing seems like it's better suited for the Manchukuo focus tree.
Gen.Feldm.Rommel  [개발자] 2017년 5월 11일 오전 6시 45분 
no the kmt never done anything like that in real life.
The Wild West Pyro 2017년 5월 11일 오전 7시 14분 
Hmmm...I think that Black Laboratories should be given to Manchukuo then. Instead, the KMT should have a 'University Expansion' focus in its place.


Because during the war, Japan set up a facility in Manchukuo to perform human experimentation on Chinese and Russian prisoners.
Gen.Feldm.Rommel  [개발자] 2017년 5월 11일 오전 11시 25분 
i was thinking of state run universities
The Wild West Pyro 2017년 5월 11일 오후 5시 13분 
Gen.Feldm. Rommel 님이 먼저 게시:
i was thinking of state run universities


Yeah, that would be more suitable for the KMT/non-aligned tree than Black Labs.
Gen.Feldm.Rommel  [개발자] 2017년 5월 11일 오후 9시 31분 
ok
The Wild West Pyro 2017년 6월 11일 오후 8시 56분 
So, if you pick Chiang as democratic leader, you now have two KMTs.

I was thinking how this would work historically, and it actually kind of makes sense.

In Rana Mitter's book, China's War With Japan, he points out that the KMT's political leanings went all over the place, from liberal to conservative to moderate to authoritarian. This allowed them to buddy up with the USSR, Nazi Germany and the USA at various points. Chiang was still a dictator, but his talent was keeping the entire KMT united. However, if he had chosen to back the democratic KMT wing rather than the authoritarian wing, a party split would be very likely.

So basically, in-game, if you make that decision, Chiang leads the democratic KMT and all the members that supported it, while all the members who didn't like it lead the non-aligned KMT.

Now, to sort out the problem of having two Chiangs, I have no idea how to solve that.



The Wild West Pyro 님이 마지막으로 수정; 2017년 6월 11일 오후 8시 59분
Gen.Feldm.Rommel  [개발자] 2017년 6월 12일 오후 12시 03분 
updating very soon
Djamti 2017년 6월 12일 오후 4시 41분 
I think that perhaps Soong-Ching-Ling could be choice for a leader for the China Democratic League and re-name them the Revolutionary Comittee of the Kuomintang and put the standard leader for the RCKMT as Sun Fo

I know this is Cambodian history but I feel it is important nontheless; The Khmer Rouge was a flip flop party siding with the west when they saw fit and the east as well. Not to mention the fact that the Vietnamese communists defeated Cambodia and the Khmer Rouge. A better leader would be the Democratic Party led by Sisowath Youtevong
Gen.Feldm.Rommel  [개발자] 2017년 6월 12일 오후 8시 42분 
look we got this covered i just got back.
sky405028 2017년 6월 19일 오전 3시 35분 
Can you add ROC focus to retake mongolia and Tanu tuva without striking USSR?
or an event that USSR will ask for peace if Mongolia and Tanu tuva capitulate to ROC?
Gen.Feldm.Rommel  [개발자] 2017년 6월 19일 오전 6시 54분 
sorry i think that may be impossible
Gen.Feldm.Rommel  [개발자] 2017년 6월 19일 오전 6시 55분 
may be possible for for fascist china
The Wild West Pyro 2017년 6월 20일 오전 4시 34분 
Just a question: There's no events involving General Stilwell coming to China, right? Because in real life, he was a massive ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who destroyed China and America's relationship out of a petty desire for revenge, couldn't cooperate with almost anybody and pushed his own troops too hard.
Gen.Feldm.Rommel  [개발자] 2017년 6월 20일 오전 7시 38분 
ehh ask kappa i wanted to do it but kappa kind of blocked me
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