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RobZ Realism mod
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jrbushman 2019 年 5 月 27 日 下午 11:13
Not really seeing a meaningful difference between the SS and the Wehrmacht, what am I missing?
When looking at the Ostfront vs the SS/WM it is clear to see the major differences. Their ideology and goal while playing is to be aggressive and to press early advantages. Their infantry differ from the other two factions and their vehicles differ greatly, so everything points you in the direction you should head while playing them. But when I play the SS and the WM I hardly tend to notice.

The SS have better infantry in the early game yes, but the WM have access to some great weaponry in their early squads so its more or less evens out. They also have very similar mid and late game infantry as well, with similar loadouts to further the confusion. Tank wise there really are only minor differences between the two factions, like how the WM can get a Panther out a bit earlier and so on. Beyond some rearrangements in the call in UI and some tweaks to availability I feel like I'm missing the core difference between them. So what am I missing?
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Romich 2019 年 5 月 28 日 上午 4:26 
You didnt notice extra unit tab with veteran tanks for mp? You can get a vet tiget as ss for mp much earlier than wehr can get their vet for sp.

Different special point selection, they cant bet pak 43 for sp and got no single "cheap" SP tank that wouldnt deny you a lategame SP tank, they got early sp stuka though.

Major inf difference is that in later years ss got no rifle grenade, actually a big deal and they can "spam" panzergren squads.
最后由 Romich 编辑于; 2019 年 5 月 28 日 上午 4:28
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Fän.Koivunen.1PsD 2019 年 5 月 28 日 下午 2:14 
Add WESTERNFRONT Vets maybe? or maybe assist me in making a new faction for this mod and textures? I'd like to start modding as I cant find anything to suit my fancy

This would kind of be a copy unit but more of an addon to the existing SS as their Vet unit self

I am aware of the Ostfront I own it, Im talking about adding a brand new faction and it would be of the SS Panzergrenadier divisions and Fallschirmjager units from Operation Market Garden

New stuff the Infantry would have as short example: M1919a4 Browning (individual unit), M1 Garands (regular infantry), Thompsons (squad leaders)

New stuff the Tanks would have as short example: M4A2 (regular tanks), Churchill 75mm (regular tanks), Vet Firefly (SP)


Yeah I know this isnt the best place to put it but its on top
最后由 Fän.Koivunen.1PsD 编辑于; 2019 年 5 月 31 日 上午 7:35
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jrbushman 2019 年 5 月 28 日 下午 5:13 
@Romich, the SP can be big yes though again the pool of units they share has immense overlap. The veteran tanks tab for the SS is interesting but those tanks are essentially just the same tanks that the WM get. This isn't COH where the veteran KT has more health and does more damage; it simply is more accurate and German tanks are already incredibly accurate as a baseline. I guess that the only thing I would agree on is that the infantry spam late gam differs enough between them to matter but that doesn't seem too important if I'm honest.
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jrbushman 2019 年 5 月 28 日 下午 5:15 
引用自 Toklo27：
Add Westfront Vets maybe? or maybe assist me in making a new faction for this mod and textures? I'd like to start modding as I cant find anything to suit my fancy

Yeah I know this isnt the best place to put it but its on top


I have Ostfront Vets and have no complaints in regards to their flavor and style. Very distinct and unique playstyle apart from the other two German factions. Can't help with modding though, no experience or knowhow. I'd make a post and maybe try and collab with Rob by making an Axis minor powers faction with Italy and such.
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Romich 2019 年 5 月 30 日 上午 5:04 
引用自 jrbushman：
@Romich, the SP can be big yes though again the pool of units they share has immense overlap. The veteran tanks tab for the SS is interesting but those tanks are essentially just the same tanks that the WM get. This isn't COH where the veteran KT has more health and does more damage; it simply is more accurate and German tanks are already incredibly accurate as a baseline. I guess that the only thing I would agree on is that the infantry spam late gam differs enough between them to matter but that doesn't seem too important if I'm honest.

Veteran tanks (not crew) also have better range and rate of fire - reload speed for their cannons.

引用自 Toklo27：
Add Westfront Vets maybe? or maybe assist me in making a new faction for this mod and textures? I'd like to start modding as I cant find anything to suit my fancy

Yeah I know this isnt the best place to put it but its on top
They are already usable in robz, you need to own a dlc that unlocks this fac in vanilla to be able to select it in multi, it isnt as pay to win as in vanilla thouh.
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jrbushman 2019 年 5 月 30 日 下午 6:38 
I guess the range and rate of fire would be enough to make the difference, though again we're talking marginal differences. Worth keeping in mind I suppose. Ultimately what I'm getting at is kind of along the lines of identity. If I want to be very aggressive as the Allies I would play the US and capitalize on Marines and their early Shermans. Spam I would go to the Russians and for a slower more methodical style I would play the Brits.

When I look at the Germans the Ostfront are the aggressive faction yes but why would I pick SS over the WM or vice versa? Both have excellent infantry and excellent tanks and their unit pool is essentially shared. Is the SS more aggressive than the WM? Or is it more elite? They're so similar it's hard to tell.
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