We tried advanced again with a new crew from Woozlez's MvM steam group. I'm posting this here since it's too big to be posted on the comments section.

Anyway, with that run, I noticed quite a few bugs on the map and flaws on the mission. So here we go.


1. Gate doesn't close fully if a player is crushed, so if a robot gets into the control point zone, they get like a 0.5 s head start in opening the gate (this might not be fixable since it's the revive marker that's stuck in between).

http://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/id/anamana-hydrogen/screenshot/449581866731800950
http://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/id/anamana-hydrogen/screenshot/449581866731801177

2. As also seen in the above screenshots, the control point icon on the HUD (like the ones in mannhattan and other gatebot maps, and in cp maps) is missing. I remember v6 having it - bug?

3. Disguised spies can help capture the point and open the gate. When I was standing there I noticed a RED player jumped in and all of a sudden the gate was opening up.

4. (Big one) Tanks blow up when they collide through the gate. If the gate hasn't fully opened yet by the time the tank crashes into it, the tank explodes regardless of how much health it has. (This is most likely a trigger_hurt issue, but I'm only guessing.) In v6, when the tank comes by, it smashes the gate into smithereens and also instantly marks the control point as captured. You should probably bring that back again (it looks better and more epic that way too). If the gate is already opened fully as the tank drives along its path track, it might pass through OK, I don't know (haven't tested that yet). Nonetheless it is a bug.

5. In one of the waves in the advanced mission (I think it was 5, I don't remember), some of the normal robots were using the giant icon. If you mark a bot as miniboss, don't resize it down please. (Or it might be a bug with the way the server parses the pop file - I haven't opened the pop file yet.)


1. The missions could use some more robot variety classes. Have some combinations like sun on a stick scout and volcano axe pyro that, while individually somewhat pointless, are deadly together (crits on burning players). You can also throw axtinguisher pyros too. The tide turner is the best shield, so the demoknights using them will suffer from the afterburn damage (as opposed to those who use the targe at the expense of maneuvering speed). I read your guide on how to play medieval mvm; you should add robots using weapons listed in your guide. Here's an idea: crit caber demoknights. Explosions everywhere.

You can also spawn Boston Basher scouts and nullify the self hit on miss attribute (set it to 0 under ItemAttributes, that should fix that) so that players suffer from bleed damage. Either way, the advanced mission (normal one is mostly ok) can use more robot variety.

2. Going off of point #1, more giants also would be nice. Giant demoknight is actually the hardest giant to deal with (for obvious reasons), then the giant heavies. The giant soldiers were interesting, but we can use some more giants. Giant baseball scouts can work - just nerf their move speed down a bit enough so that eyelander demoknights can catch up to them. Giant ubersaw medic also works. It will also add a hilarity factor to the mission as well (the robot soldiers were funny).

3. More critboosted robots also can enhance difficulty, but don't go too overboard with it.

4. Like you mentioned in your comment, there is way too much money. On wave 7, with maxed shield, maxed eyelander, max move speed, and $300 in canteens spent, I STILL had $3120 left over. So make the advanced mission drop about $2500 less money and it should be more balanced money-wise.

5. Also like you said, the advanced mission gets repetitive, although it wasn't repetitive enough for us to be bored by it. If you throw more robots with varied loadouts and classes in the mix (like point #1 and 2 suggest) that problem should be fixed.

6. Someone suggested that you put some spooky sound (a soundscape) inside the castle. That's up to you to decide whether you want to add one in or not, but it's food for thought.

http://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/id/anamana-hydrogen/screenshot/449581866731847170

Overall we had a blast, but those bugs do need addressing. Also, you can probably buff the tank health by like 20% more so that it does crash through the gates (on later parts of a wave).

Keep up the fantastic work.