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Bijaz  [开发者] 7 月 15 日 上午 9:35
Logic Puzzle / Nonogram [Surface]
The logic puzzle on the surface of the middle island is a 7 * 7 nonogram[en.wikipedia.org].

Here's a quick overview if you are not familiar:
  • Each bar of lights on the side of the puzzle represents how many groups of pylons should be activated on that row or column.
  • Each grouping is always separated by one grid-square that would not be activated.
  • For example: the row that has 4 groups of 1, you would need to activate pylons 1, 3, 5, and 7 on that row, since its the only way each group can have a gap between them.
  • You can use both the X and Y clues to determine which pylons need to be activated.

Spoilers for the rest of the puzzle:

All of the pylons are pointing their dark section towards the owning core. You will need to solve the nonogram first, then only active the pylons for that core that are part of the nonogram solution.

:wa_bullets:
最后由 Bijaz 编辑于; 7 月 15 日 下午 12:00
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Acheron 9 月 27 日 上午 5:12 
Imma be honest this is neat and creative, but to be honest it makes 0 sense, the lights don't make any sense in place of the numbers and the other issue the pylons and rows and columns itself and how to know where to even move to next it doesn't work like a normal nonogram in the slightest with the 4 different generators at each corner and how to even start with anything, the second covered hint doesn't really help.
Now im not much of a puzzle person to be honest, i enjoy blue prince but ive watched so many videos from other players usually they don't get a lot of it either or they say something that sparks an idea and i go from there or they end up solving it and as they walk through everything.

This is pretty rough to go through and honestly your in game hints are lacking to say the least, many players won't even know what a nonogram is, and even if they do this variation doesn't really say hey im a nonogram and that one hint that i found on the island about the pylons and lights doesn't really help.

I ended up going to reddit which directed me here and someone else mentioned nonogram which honestly didn't crosss my mind when I saw this an told me to look them up and even still this just doesn't click like other nonograms.

It being in a 3d space doesn't quite help either to be honest..
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Bijaz  [开发者] 9 月 29 日 下午 1:08 
I updated the data-pad with a bit more detail and the name of the puzzle type to make it easier to look up.

Not every puzzle needs to be solvable by every player, this is specifically designed to be a non-blocking fun experience for anyone who is familiar with nonograms. Anyone who has done them before should instantly recognize this layout, including a sizable audience of people who have played PICROSS and similar games.
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aabergm 10 月 9 日 下午 2:08 
Yeah after 1.0 I googled the answer and ran a nonogram solver. I like what you tried to do but the cores facing whichever way..... bit much. While not every problem needs to be solved by every player, it needs to solvable by most players and most importantly needs to FEEL solvable to those who dont.

It was clever but a bit too clever
最后由 aabergm 编辑于; 10 月 9 日 下午 2:17
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