I Wani Hug that Gator!

I Wani Hug that Gator!

Movie Nights With Mia
Dude_84_Dude  [开发者] 4 月 15 日 上午 7:04
Mia mod
So like I said, this is just an idea I have for a post E2 story with Inco getting together with Mia, and this would be their obligatory heart to heart chapter.

I also had an idea for making it a branching story where Inco can either get with Mia or Lunara, but Lunara has zero-personality to work with, so I probably won't bother with that and focus only on one narrative. Despite being made into a reprehensible bully to spite her creator, I still think Cavemanon succeeded in writing Mia into an interesting character, but you don't get to see those other aspects of her personality outside of E1. I do see potential with her, and she and Inco can either help each other grow...or just become worse people.
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ThagoSpikes 4 月 20 日 下午 12:51 
I am all up to see reason for mia being mia.

she seems like a character with massive trust issues.
jhdominic4.js 4 月 24 日 下午 10:46 
Playing through this again as I said I do really hope you make this into a full mod as lots of interesting things especially how you are gonna tackle Mias background are teased here. Also I really found myself agreeing with Mia's argument that in E2 everyone really screwed Inco over. Having it be just a Mia story is also a good idea imo as people really seem to be wanting Mia content as of late and Lunara would just muddle it and having a dual path of Traditional good Snoot/Wani style ending and Mia and Inco become evil together sounds like a blast and the 2 small endings to this mod defiantly show the potential. Also very curious how Olivia will be handled with the Good and Evil endings and what she will do in general as seeing them together especially being E2 Liv could be fatal imo.
Dude_84_Dude  [开发者] 4 月 25 日 下午 5:04 
引用自 jhdominic4.js
Playing through this again as I said I do really hope you make this into a full mod as lots of interesting things especially how you are gonna tackle Mias background are teased here. Also I really found myself agreeing with Mia's argument that in E2 everyone really screwed Inco over. Having it be just a Mia story is also a good idea imo as people really seem to be wanting Mia content as of late and Lunara would just muddle it and having a dual path of Traditional good Snoot/Wani style ending and Mia and Inco become evil together sounds like a blast and the 2 small endings to this mod defiantly show the potential. Also very curious how Olivia will be handled with the Good and Evil endings and what she will do in general as seeing them together especially being E2 Liv could be fatal imo.

That's the plan. I've already been brainstorming a lot of ideas for the story and how it could progress and end, plus giving Mia context and backstory for why she is the way she is without diverting from how she's presented in game much.

And also, the idea isn't that Mia is "right" so much but more that's she's speaking a lot of half truths coming from the cynical perspective of a misanthrope. But they both need to tell each other uncomfortable truths to grow. So this is a wake up call for them both.

I do see Inco as a tragic figure who's set up for failure with the odds stacked against him. I can't help but feel angry for him at times. I'm just not sure how much of this was intentional by the writers or simply them getting overly sentimental for Olivia, because I honestly don't believe she does much of anything to merit what she receives in E4.

This mod is not going to be as big as WDTPS I'm thinking. And just to keep things simple, I was thinking of going with only three possible endings, a bad, a neutral, and a good.

I'm glad it's already garnered a positive response.
jhdominic4.js 4 月 26 日 上午 1:24 
引用自 Dude_84_Dude
And also, the idea isn't that Mia is "right" so much but more that's she's speaking a lot of half truths coming from the cynical perspective of a misanthrope. But they both need to tell each other uncomfortable truths to grow. So this is a wake up call for them both.

I do see Inco as a tragic figure who's set up for failure with the odds stacked against him. I can't help but feel angry for him at times. I'm just not sure how much of this was intentional by the writers or simply them getting overly sentimental for Olivia, because I honestly don't believe she does much of anything to merit what she receives in E4.

That makes proper sense being Mia of course I guess take it as a compliment as it shows your strength as a writer making her so convincing here to the point where the players are agreeing with her looking at recent comments and even got me on a 2nd play through though I do need to refresh myself on Wani E2 tbh.

Yeah defiantly one of the issues with Wani is compared to Snoot it does seem much more weighted towards the love interest as I agree with your point Olivia does seem to not really earn E4. And I defiantly see your feelings with getting angry for Inco in this mod with Inco here in this case finally being a bit assertive with Mia's prodding.

Either way cant wait to see what you come up with defiantly is gonna be a blast to play once finished.
Finished the mod just now. I must say, it was quite a journey. Got Ending 3 out of 4. Aside from some grammatical errors, points left unaddressed (which will probably demand another playthrough to remember) and an ending which feels underdeveloped, it was a great mod. Definetly worth the wait.
jhdominic4.js 10 月 28 日 下午 7:56 
Now that I've played it got all the endings I can say I really enjoyed it. Y'all did insane work for 6 months feels like this could honestly be fleshed out into a full game cause it almost is already. With the author notes I definitetly understand burning out after making all this in such a short time. Honestly the E4 feels the weakest and as noted the most "anti-climactic" something simple to help with that might honestly be just an ending CG rather than the picture of the car museum. Again just something simple and poignant involving Inco, Mia,and maybe Solly. Cause I think the issue with the car museum making it feel anticlimactic is cause it gives no closure visually. Could be them just happy at the camera with Solly, them dancing at prom, just them standing infront or sitting in Mia's hotrod plenty of ways to play it to be as fleshed out or ambiguous as you like.
Armagedonus 10 月 29 日 上午 8:16 
Yeah, I just finished the mod and I agree 100% with the user jhdominic4.js
If I can suggest the best way (in my humble opinion) to finish end 4 it would be to have Inco, Mia and Ben attending Anon and Lucy's wedding in summer. I mean, I remember what you wrote in the commentary (that you changed mind about inclusion of Snoot game characters into this mod), but I think that Anon and Lucy wedding would work best:
-it would be a nice parallel between the Malcolm wedding (when Iadakan was alive) and Anon's wedding (where Inco and Ben work hard to replace Trent), plus it would show that Inco continues Iadakan's "legacy" even without Olivia
-looking at Anon and Lucy's wedding would enable Inco and Mia their imagine their own wedding (for more cute dialogue between them)
-would enable final closure between Ben, Inco, Damien and Olivia (for example you could have Ben ask Inco how Olivia is doing and Inco would reply that Damien told him that Olivia is doing much better at therapy, thus establishing that Damien is Inco's friend and that Olivia has a better ending herself)
-would create a strong comparison between end 3 and 4 (end 3 would be more bittersweet, as we'd knew how much better the wedding would be if Mia was free and end 4 would be more sweet, as we'd knew how close it was to lose it all...)
-it would be far more natural to include Lucy (and Anon) than what you originally planned and put in bonus scenes.
And the best part about this? You could choose between wedding of end 3 or end 4 from Snoot!
Think about this idea if you are inclined to.
I sort of agree with the above poster, I would have liked to have E3 Lucy in this mod as was implied by the version I played before this recent update. I understand, though, that this isn't my project and I'm sure you came to your decision for a good reason. Anyway, looking forward to what you have next!
Dude_84_Dude  [开发者] 11 月 4 日 上午 6:52 
I sort of agree with the above poster, I would have liked to have E3 Lucy in this mod as was implied by the version I played before this recent update. I understand, though, that this isn't my project and I'm sure you came to your decision for a good reason. Anyway, looking forward to what you have next!

I originally did want E3 Fang/Lucy to be a kind of mentor figure to Inco which would've helped her resolve her own issues. But it ended up being too convenient a plot twist with her appearing out of nowhere and them just suddenly hitting it off. That's why I scrapped it.

The most I'd consider doing as far as that goes is making a one-off mod in the future that shows Inco and Mia interacting with Anon and Lucy before their wedding and becoming friends that way.

Also, I remember you once asking about seeing older versions of WDTPS to compare and contrast what got changed in the editing process. I left a lot of programmer notes in MNWM that show what sentences looked like before I edited them into cleaner, tighter sentences. You can access the mod files by going to 'steamapps/workshop/content/1895350' and then searching for this mod. It's best if you download Visual Studio Code and then download the ren'py extension to better read the game files.

Looking at how the editing process goes is what got me better at editing and writing. Self-Editing For Fiction Writers is a book I've mentioned before and it's one I swear by. EVERY writer needs to read it, though I'd recommend reading it only after you've written a story already and just want to clean it up.
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