p sure this gungame has only tf2 stock weapons, no custom ones aside from crowbar melee wich is a reskin

You have not played the mode

If you don't like it then don't play it. That simple.

>"No Classes" Yeah duh why would you want classes in Gungame. Certain classes would likely just be the best with all guns while others wouldn't be played
>"No teams" It's based off an Open Fortress mode which is primarily FFA. Also, if it's Team Based, you'd be competing with your teammates to get to the last gun, how does that make sense?
>"25 weapons shoehorned and plugged in" Bro now you're just STRAIGHT admitting you haven't even played the mode. ALL the weapons in this Gungame are stock TF2 weapons. Nothing from Open Fortress, nothing from Team Fortress 2 Classic. The only exception is the Crowbar, which is a reskin of the TF2 Scout's bat. If you're saying this mode will ruin TF2 at least PLAY it first.
>"Another Vscript game-mode that will inevitably die in 2-3 months and rot on the casual match-making screen" Why so pessimistic? People still play these modes, and if more get added it will warrant categories exclusively for this mode.
>"Bright, flashy, over-exaggerated effects and animations for Mercenary" There literally isn't. The only flashy one I saw was where he flips the Crowbar upon switching to it, which is a rarer animation that doesn't happen as often as the first one. All other switch animations are stock.

If you're going to claim a mode will ruin TF2, at least try it first. The people who made this mode put a lot of effort into making it as well as mapping for it, so the least you could do is give it a try. It's a free map that people put their time into without the expectation that they would be paid for making it. Get off the Prop Hunt Vscript hate pills and try the mode first.

i stroke my ♥♥♥♥ hard

be quiet

you must be fun at parties

引用自 Arcamsleet：

If you don't like it then don't play it. That simple.

I disagree with azuma and I think this map is really good, but this point sucks. Using that logic Valve could just add some horribly optimised Gamebanana trade server map made by a child in 2012 to Casual, and nobody could criticise that decision because "if you don't like it just don't queue for it".

Nobody wants more Frostwatches, Wutvilles, or Junctions that nobody likes and just bloat the game's storage. And excusing bad maps with that "it's optional to play" thinking is just so lazy

引用自 pogagool：

引用自 Arcamsleet：

If you don't like it then don't play it. That simple.

I disagree with azuma and I think this map is really good, but this point sucks. Using that logic Valve could just add some horribly optimised Gamebanana trade server map made by a child in 2012 to Casual, and nobody could criticise that decision because "if you don't like it just don't queue for it".

Nobody wants more Frostwatches, Wutvilles or Junctions that nobody likes and just bloat the game's storage. And excusing bad maps with that "it's optional to play" thinking is just so lazy

You know what really bloats the games files? having 2 duplicates of each of the game's weapon models that arent used by the game what so ever

引用自 Wendy：

引用自 pogagool：

I disagree with azuma and I think this map is really good, but this point sucks. Using that logic Valve could just add some horribly optimised Gamebanana trade server map made by a child in 2012 to Casual, and nobody could criticise that decision because "if you don't like it just don't queue for it".

Nobody wants more Frostwatches, Wutvilles or Junctions that nobody likes and just bloat the game's storage. And excusing bad maps with that "it's optional to play" thinking is just so lazy

You know what really bloats the games files? having 2 duplicates of each of the game's weapon models that arent used by the game what so ever

like it pisses me off that alot of the weapon models that are actually used in the game are filepath models/workshop/weapons/c_models or something like that iirc

but then theres also the exact same model in models/weapons/c_models that the game just doesnt use. makes modding a nightmare and it bloats the game files

引用自 Wendy：

引用自 Wendy：

You know what really bloats the games files? having 2 duplicates of each of the game's weapon models that arent used by the game what so ever

like it pisses me off that alot of the weapon models that are actually used in the game are filepath models/workshop/weapons/c_models or something like that iirc

but then theres also the exact same model in models/weapons/c_models that the game just doesnt use. makes modding a nightmare and it bloats the game files

I mean yeah I agree lol but one bloating issue doesn't invalidate the other

引用自 azuma：

saying this will "ruin tf2" is WAY too overdramatic for something like this. get real

it's not tf2 if there aren't classes or teams, plain and simple - that's what i mean by "ruin" - deconstructing core game design to favour new game-modes

what are you talking about my guy

So many words to still be so very wrong

Its ok to be wrong.

Its kinda weird how the players of this game want change so badly but when actual change comes they complain about it.

I Do agree it would be off to have it on the casual pool. Having it on the Pass Time/Other Gamemodes Section would work better.

Would revive the arena match this game had.

Honestly I just don't understand why we would need this in actual TF2, it's literally just open fortress. Like, OF is great, I play it a ton, but just go download and play that? Am I missing something with this gamemode? Because I just don't understand why this would exist other than to promote OF.