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Tabletop caps - Mod Unit Support
Laevatain II  [开发者] 2022 年 6 月 5 日 下午 7:57
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最后由 Laevatain II 编辑于; 2024 年 1 月 14 日 下午 6:07
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Wolfy 2022 年 7 月 26 日 下午 12:31 
I feel like the Cathayan Bolt Thrower from Eustace's Cathay Artillery Pack is too expensive with 2 Special Points. It is cheap low accuracy artillery unlocked with a level two building.

Just one Special Point would be spot on, in my opinion.
Laevatain II  [开发者] 2022 年 7 月 26 日 下午 8:28 
@Wolfy Hello! When you play the vanilla game with this mod, you can see that two special points are enough since most Cathay's infantry don't need special points. because the cavalry and war machines use them even you are playing Radious. And Cathayan Bolt Thrower's accuracy is not that bad when you use anti-large. and that in Cathay's early game, most of your enemies are not large units. Also, this unit seems to me to be a low-level replacement of the Grane Gunner. When you upgrade to a level 3 building, you will replace it with another cannon or Grane Gunner to do better job. And If you still insist on your opinion, I will take it to change to 1 special point. :shigure2:
最后由 Laevatain II 编辑于; 2022 年 7 月 26 日 下午 8:30
Wolfy 2022 年 7 月 27 日 上午 8:02 
Thank you for your answer!

I think that, as you say, both Crane Gunners and Grand Cannons are going to do a better job than Cathayan Bolt Throwers. Hence, it makes sense this unit requires less special points. Otherwise there is no reason to use it after 20 turns.

I also think War Tigers (from another mod) are a little bit two expensive (2 Special Points for a unit that costs 500). On the other end, the Bastion Cannon feels so cheap with only 1 Rare Point. Compared with the Fire Rain Rocket, I think it should be up to 3 Rare Points.
Laevatain II  [开发者] 2022 年 7 月 27 日 下午 6:53 
@Wolfy
I will change Cathayan Bolt Throwers and War Tiger to one special point, and the Bastion Cannon will be up to three rare points. Thanks you :shigure2:
AgNO3 2022 年 9 月 12 日 上午 1:54 
瑞克禁卫狮鹫骑士建议2紫点,参考巴托皇家马鹫骑士
Laevatain II  [开发者] 2022 年 9 月 12 日 下午 2:07 
找到你说的是哪个单位了, 已修改
最后由 Laevatain II 编辑于; 2022 年 9 月 12 日 下午 10:36
AgNO3 2022 年 9 月 12 日 下午 11:40 
引用自 Laevatain II
找到你说的是哪个单位了, 已修改
我刚看了一下,还是1个紫点。
我说的是瑞克mod里面的帝国飞行骑兵
Laevatain II  [开发者] 2022 年 9 月 12 日 下午 11:57 
改了,忘记上传, 现在应该好了
AgNO3 2022 年 9 月 13 日 上午 5:29 
引用自 Laevatain II
改了,忘记上传, 现在应该好了
我看还是1个紫点。。哈哈
2Neko 2023 年 6 月 21 日 下午 3:35 
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=2853343800
These Dragon Legion units are all set to around 1 or so cost while being better than even vanilla units at 2 cost and similarly compared to some other mods. Not sure if it's something you want to look into, but it's likely all the 1 cost special units would fit closer too 2 cost stat wise.
最后由 2Neko 编辑于; 2023 年 6 月 21 日 下午 4:11
Laevatain II  [开发者] 2023 年 6 月 21 日 下午 4:16 
引用自 2Neko
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=2853343800
These Dragon Legion units are all set to around 1 or so cost while being better than even vanilla units at 2 cost and similarly compared to some other mods. Not sure if it's something you want to look into, but it's likely all the 1 cost special units would fit closer too 2 cost stat wise.
As well, the Calvary units seem like they should be Rare 1 to match Dragon Princes.
Chariots as well look to fit Rare 1 instead or a high Special, their stats are quite silly.

Thanks for the suggestion, I will change all infantry and ranged chariots units to 2 special.

And for the cavalry unit, because this mod also use the cavalry unit from dark elves, and it is also powerful, compared to Cold One Knights, they have no stat changes. if I change it to 1 rare point, will it be more useful than the Dragon Prince?

The reason I don't change the Dragon Legion cavalry to rare is that in my opinion they are just a variant of "Dragon Prince" for different units, such as large units and infantry units.

Also, thank for your feedback, let me know what your think about my opinion.:shigure2:
2Neko 2023 年 6 月 21 日 下午 4:32 
引用自 Laevatain II
引用自 2Neko
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=2853343800
These Dragon Legion units are all set to around 1 or so cost while being better than even vanilla units at 2 cost and similarly compared to some other mods. Not sure if it's something you want to look into, but it's likely all the 1 cost special units would fit closer too 2 cost stat wise.
As well, the Calvary units seem like they should be Rare 1 to match Dragon Princes.
Chariots as well look to fit Rare 1 instead or a high Special, their stats are quite silly.

Thanks for the suggestion, I will change all infantry and ranged chariots units to 2 special.

And for the cavalry unit, because this mod also use the cavalry unit from dark elves, and it is also powerful, compared to Cold One Knights, they have no stat changes. if I change it to 1 rare point, will it be more useful than the Dragon Prince?

The reason I don't change the Dragon Legion cavalry to rare is that in my opinion they are just a variant of "Dragon Prince" for different units, such as large units and infantry units.

Also, thank for your feedback, let me know what your think about my opinion.:shigure2:

The Dragon Princes cost was being edited by another TTCap Rebalance mod, I edited my post too late lol.
If they cost the same as Dragon Princes by default then they were likely fine, unless they were also set to cost 1.
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