引用自 A .VMF：

This is how to Implement Halloween Spells. The biggest thing people don’t realize is how exactly Valve would implement spells.

My suggestion is that
A. Spells be added as bonus drops (or in a package item similar to the Halloween pumpkin packages) for Scream Fortress Contracts. This would encourage players to finish the bonus and be a not-too easy method of obtaining spells.
B. (Optionally with A) Spells be added as a rare bonus item when unboxing a crate during the Halloween season. Could also potentially be put in a standalone case?

It should be universally agreed that if Spells are reimplemented, they should be:
1. Tradeable, marketable, and sellable
2. Gen 1 should return in circulation with a new Gen.
3. Stay in Halloween. I don’t buy into the idea of them being unrestricted.

This is my suggestion, and I hope that if Valve looks over this workshop submission that they read this and consider it.

引用自 λtom605：

引用自 A .VMF：

This is how to Implement Halloween Spells. The biggest thing people don’t realize is how exactly Valve would implement spells.

My suggestion is that
A. Spells be added as bonus drops (or in a package item similar to the Halloween pumpkin packages) for Scream Fortress Contracts. This would encourage players to finish the bonus and be a not-too easy method of obtaining spells.
B. (Optionally with A) Spells be added as a rare bonus item when unboxing a crate during the Halloween season. Could also potentially be put in a standalone case?

It should be universally agreed that if Spells are reimplemented, they should be:
1. Tradeable, marketable, and sellable
2. Gen 1 should return in circulation with a new Gen.
3. Stay in Halloween. I don’t buy into the idea of them being unrestricted.

This is my suggestion, and I hope that if Valve looks over this workshop submission that they read this and consider it.

These ideas are nice however it would be wiser if each player was given a limited amount of spells. The reason valve mainly stopped them is due too many particles being rendering crashing servers. If they were to make them buyable in the store or drop from cases it will cause the exact problem. My idea is to make it so you are only allowed to buy a specific amount of spells from something similar of the Gift Shop from Jungle Inferno using blood money tickets. This time with halloween tickets that let you buy a limited amount of spells you would like to have. Basically pick what you want, leave what you dont.

引用自 A .VMF：

引用自 λtom605：

These ideas are nice however it would be wiser if each player was given a limited amount of spells. The reason valve mainly stopped them is due too many particles being rendering crashing servers. If they were to make them buyable in the store or drop from cases it will cause the exact problem. My idea is to make it so you are only allowed to buy a specific amount of spells from something similar of the Gift Shop from Jungle Inferno using blood money tickets. This time with halloween tickets that let you buy a limited amount of spells you would like to have. Basically pick what you want, leave what you dont.

This is a fine idea, but the whole concept the particles are responsible for spell removal is a load of bunk. Not only do spells still get used today, meaning the effects are still in game and people are still using them, but unusuals and unusual taunts continue to receive new generations in increasing numbers, and no supposed threat of ‘particles breaking performance’ there.

引用自 Woshee：

Not to mention I cannot find any evidence of what you are saying about particle overload causing server crashes. I could only find one from a bit ago about client crashes, but idk what are the chances that can happen, it only seems to happen with super expensive mods installed.

引用自 A .VMF：

This is how to Implement Halloween Spells. The biggest thing people don’t realize is how exactly Valve would implement spells.

My suggestion is that
A. Spells be added as bonus drops (or in a package item similar to the Halloween pumpkin packages) for Scream Fortress Contracts. This would encourage players to finish the bonus and be a not-too easy method of obtaining spells.
B. (Optionally with A) Spells be added as a rare bonus item when unboxing a crate during the Halloween season. Could also potentially be put in a standalone case?

It should be universally agreed that if Spells are reimplemented, they should be:
1. Tradeable, marketable, and sellable
2. Gen 1 should return in circulation with a new Gen.
3. Stay in Halloween. I don’t buy into the idea of them being unrestricted.

This is my suggestion, and I hope that if Valve looks over this workshop submission that they read this and consider it.

引用自 Barrett：

引用自 A .VMF：

This is how to Implement Halloween Spells. The biggest thing people don’t realize is how exactly Valve would implement spells.

My suggestion is that
A. Spells be added as bonus drops (or in a package item similar to the Halloween pumpkin packages) for Scream Fortress Contracts. This would encourage players to finish the bonus and be a not-too easy method of obtaining spells.
B. (Optionally with A) Spells be added as a rare bonus item when unboxing a crate during the Halloween season. Could also potentially be put in a standalone case?

It should be universally agreed that if Spells are reimplemented, they should be:
1. Tradeable, marketable, and sellable
2. Gen 1 should return in circulation with a new Gen.
3. Stay in Halloween. I don’t buy into the idea of them being unrestricted.

This is my suggestion, and I hope that if Valve looks over this workshop submission that they read this and consider it.

(Replying to "Gen 1 should return in circulation with a new Gen.")
This is a terrible idea, it would absolutely crash the market for original spell owners and simply make any money spent on those spelled items go down the drain.

I'd rather have Gen 2 feature Gen 1 spell effects, but with altered colors to make them still be separate from the original generation to maintain their value.

引用自 A .VMF：

引用自 Barrett：

(Replying to "Gen 1 should return in circulation with a new Gen.")
This is a terrible idea, it would absolutely crash the market for original spell owners and simply make any money spent on those spelled items go down the drain.

I'd rather have Gen 2 feature Gen 1 spell effects, but with altered colors to make them still be separate from the original generation to maintain their value.

I personally believe this is wrong, but whatever.

引用自 Barrett：

引用自 A .VMF：

I personally believe this is wrong, but whatever.

I understand wanting to have Gen 1 effects back as they were cool as hell, but objectively they would crash the market of the original effects. A strange original double spelled itself adds 50 keys, meaning a person would lose 100 dollars simply by Gen 1 effects being re-added.

Or to be more thorough of how much spells increase item prices, here's a pricelist. https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1882335372

引用自 A .VMF：

引用自 Barrett：

I understand wanting to have Gen 1 effects back as they were cool as hell, but objectively they would crash the market of the original effects. A strange original double spelled itself adds 50 keys, meaning a person would lose 100 dollars simply by Gen 1 effects being re-added.

Or to be more thorough of how much spells increase item prices, here's a pricelist. https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1882335372

So that's it then. The economy of spells can NEVER recover if they re-add them?
They seems like a load of hooey if you ask me.

引用自 λtom605：

引用自 A .VMF：

So that's it then. The economy of spells can NEVER recover if they re-add them?
They seems like a load of hooey if you ask me.

I’m going to be honest here, IF Valve were ever do add spells back, and that’s a huge ass if, I highly doubt they would bring back gen 1 spells. I think they’re fully aware that the trading community would blow a fuse if they were to re add them back. The project we did is purely for fun, but if they were to add our series 2 it would prolly be the only spell series added. It sucks but they’re not wrong, re adding those back would make a lot of people upset.

引用自 what year was new coke invented：

引用自 λtom605：

I’m going to be honest here, IF Valve were ever do add spells back, and that’s a huge ass if, I highly doubt they would bring back gen 1 spells. I think they’re fully aware that the trading community would blow a fuse if they were to re add them back. The project we did is purely for fun, but if they were to add our series 2 it would prolly be the only spell series added. It sucks but they’re not wrong, re adding those back would make a lot of people upset.

Valve most likely will never bring back 1st gen spells. They know there's a market for spells, and because theyre limited and retired, the price will continuously go up, and a lot of spelled items can be sold on the steam community market, the higher the price they sell for, the more money valve will get from steam tax. I don't think valve would just throw away that free money.