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BigBen 2023 年 3 月 9 日 下午 8:25
Experienced stacks playing uneven matchups
I have unfortunately had to stop playing ARAM, even though I used to it a lot and probably played more than 200 games of it. The problem is that in about 1/3 of my games, my team gets completely outclassed by the enemy team. In these games I always have a feeling I'm playing against a 4-stack or a 3-stack and sure enough, 90% of the time at the end of the game I see the enemy team has multiple players ranked as ancient or above, while everyone on my team is herald or guardian. These games are not fun at all - from minute 1 until the end of the game, if I even go within spell range of the enemy team I get blown up instantly, while my team usually has multiple players who have no clue how to even play ARAM (or Dota in general).

These stacks have an unfair advantage for multiple reasons:
1. They are all experienced ARAM players who know which heroes work and which heroes don't.
2. They are always ranked Ancient or above in real Dota and it's not uncommon for them to be ranked Immortal, whereas the average player on the opposite team will usually be ranked between Herald and Archon.
3. Since they are friends and know each other well, they have a communication advantage.

ARAM is not really enjoyable when in a third of my games I have to sit through a one-sided stomp knowing I have no chance to win, and I can't even enjoy it. And if I abandon I get punished, meaning my next 2 games will be even worse. Sadly for that reason I have had to stop playing.

I hope there is some solution to this issue, either by banning pre-made stacks from joining a game, or giving them some sort of in-game penalty such as reduced gold to make it a bit more fair.
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Gigiomon 2023 年 5 月 8 日 下午 7:08 
Try to improve your gameplay, you suck at this game. At least try to find friends to cary you :steamthumbsdown:
BigBen 2023 年 5 月 8 日 下午 7:13 
引用自 Gigio
Try to improve your gameplay, you suck at this game. At least try to find friends to cary you :steamthumbsdown:
Let's see...my score in that game was 17/7/13, yours was 3/11/29. Maybe you're the one who sucks? You have to get your friends to carry you, and even then you still lose. How embarrassing.
最后由 BigBen 编辑于; 2023 年 5 月 8 日 下午 7:15
Gigiomon 2023 年 5 月 8 日 下午 7:43 
Yep, every time your in my team I lose, rly makes me think, and you're all about the score right? Nice kill steal, 29 assists. Dude, grow up, get better. btw what is your mmr in aram? like 300? hahahahahahahaah I have like 3k+. pls kid. your not even close to me. just delete this trend and stop embarrassing yourself.
BigBen 2023 年 5 月 8 日 下午 7:59 
引用自 Gigio
Yep, every time your in my team I lose, rly makes me think, and you're all about the score right? Nice kill steal, 29 assists. Dude, grow up, get better. btw what is your mmr in aram? like 300? hahahahahahahaah I have like 3k+. pls kid. your not even close to me. just delete this trend and stop embarrassing yourself.
What a coincidence, I also lose every time you're on my team :steamfacepalm:. ARAM rank is meaningless, all it means is that you play with friends a lot. The creator of this mode doesn't understand how Elo systems are supposed to work, your MMR gain is supposed to be based on the skill difference between you and your opponent, but in ARAM you get +10 no matter what. It just means that playing in a stack is the easiest way to gain MMR.

By the way, you're the only one embarrassing yourself here with your childish, immature behaviour, coming to my thread to start an argument because you're upset you lost.
最后由 BigBen 编辑于; 2023 年 5 月 8 日 下午 8:01
cegod 2023 年 10 月 31 日 上午 1:30 
Having played hundreds of games and with a win rate of over 80%, I think I’m somehow responsible for your annoyance. I know what heroes are most impactful, I know to analyse enemy lineup and build accordingly, in ARAM the first and second items are the most important in my opinions, a pipe for full magic team, a mage slayer for leshrac, blademail when you are in disadvantage early game so you can at least exchange life with enemies, glimmer to abuse vision, dagger+bkb to initiate on annoying disruptor, lotus against pointing skills heroes, shiva against high regen or spell lifesteal hero etc. And I always single-handedly carry my team..and yes when playing with friends the win rate goes up to 90++%, I feel bad for the opposing teams. What I’m trying to tell you is that you can single handedly carry the game if you fully understand the mode. I’m about 4500mmr but I never play normal Dota match for years.
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