Total War: ROME II - Emperor Edition

Total War: ROME II - Emperor Edition

Qin Unit pack v1.3
Old Fox  [开发者] 2014 年 4 月 7 日 上午 10:10
秦 單位包中登場的兵器和甲冑 Qin unit package debut weapons and armor
主要資料來源,秦始皇帝陵博物館 秦始皇帝陵博物院 [www.bmy.com.cn]
The main source of information, Emperor Qin Shihuang MAUSOLEUM SITE MUSEUM [www.bmy.com.cn]


▉兵器為配合遊戲平衡對長度和尺寸做了主觀調整,少數兵器是否正規裝備與用途有爭議 ... 但仍先納入


四種長兵器

(短) 矛 : 分兩類,一類身起中脊,兩側有長而寬的凹槽,另一類每邊三棱四面
(短) 戟 : 有代表性,多用途的兵器,兵俑發現完整的戟長 2.87米 ,而陪葬坑內大多數腐爛的秘長 3 ~ 3.45 米 ★ MOD 中對長度做了調整
(中) 鈹 : 比長槍有更大的穿刺力 ★ MOD 中獨立成隊
(長) 長槍 : 長度最長 ★沒有完整實物證明其長度且木秘已腐壞難辨,無法肯定是否普遍裝備或存在隊形

四種短兵器

戈 : 長度依車用與步兵用分兩類,★MOD 中參考步戰用長度 110 ~ 140 釐米
(金鈎) 吳鈎 : 吳鉤兩側皆有刃,可鉤殺也可推殺 ★出土數量少且無刃,可能非普遍裝備
短劍 : 用的是戰國流行的長度 ★MOD 中分配給基本士兵
秦長劍 : 劍長以兵俑出土的長度 81~94.8釐米 為調整依據 ★MOD 中出現在騎兵,將領衛隊上

一種禦器

秦皮盾 : 葫蘆形狀,漢代承襲這盾牌外型並出現在漢代武士俑手上,兵俑坑出土皮盾已腐爛,但依稀可見彩繪紋路 ★MOD 中參考青銅盾上精緻夔龍紋簡化繪製

一種遠射程兵器

秦弓 : 根據兵馬俑博物館的文字敘述有提到弓弩與弓箭手,我不知道是否刻意區分
在 MOD 中將弓箭手獨立成隊,暫時填補目前無法製作弩弓的遺憾




▉ 秦始皇帝陵博物院之 "秦俑的甲衣" 一文如此敘述 : 考古資料表明,秦國的鐵製生產工具出土的數量很多,但鐵兵器卻十分罕見,而鐵甲實物目前尚未發現。

六種甲

K9801 二類石甲 C (防禦完整,雙肩披膊、胸腹) : 佔出土比重 80% 以上,材質上官方文章持保守意見,但不完全排除為金屬的可能性
K9801 一類魚鱗甲 (背部防禦較差,無雙肩披膊) : 只發現兩領,甲片細小精緻類似於軍官穿戴款式 ★MOD 中配置給重甲軍官
一型 單 : (背部防禦較差,無雙肩披膊) : MOD 中配置於士官,材質推測為皮
二型 A : (防禦完整,雙肩披膊、胸腹) : 防禦良好甲片精緻,高級軍官所穿,材質可能為皮+金屬 ★ MOD 中配置在將軍
三型 A : (無雙肩披膊,較三型 B 短) : 方便騎馬的設計,材質推測為皮 ★MOD 中配置給騎兵
三型 B : (防禦完整,雙肩披膊、胸腹) : 為大部分兵俑士兵所穿,材質推測為皮 ★MOD 中配置給基本士兵


一種冑

K9801 石冑二類 : 根據秦始皇帝陵博物院文字敘述如下 :
"第二類石冑數量較少,約占出土量的3%。其冑片特徵與燕下都M44發現的鐵冑片特別接近,因此第二類冑可能是仿照鐵質冑的形式製作而成的。"
可見不排除為鐵質冑,因此 MOD 中將其配置在包含將領的高級部隊上

K9801 石冑一類 : 根據秦始皇帝陵博物院文字敘述如下 :
第一類石冑數量多,約佔目前出土量的90%以上,冑片形體較大,並且冑片各有弧度,可能是仿照皮革質地的冑製作而成。
這應該是讓普通士兵穿載的皮冑,目前缺少復原品 MOD 中暫時缺席
最后由 Old Fox 编辑于; 2014 年 4 月 18 日 下午 10:46
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heer kaiser 2014 年 4 月 8 日 上午 4:18 
Qin Armor is made out of steel . during that period they have already perfected Steel armor in many warring states.. its only Qin kingdom have choosen to use Bronze as weapon because they have further perfected bronze even more then any other states. evidence is found from bronze sword from under ground.
heer kaiser 2014 年 4 月 8 日 上午 4:18 
铜剑 秦俑坑青铜兵器均为铸件,再经过机械加工,光洁平整,组织严密,没有沙眼。其表面有一层铬化合物氧化层,起防锈用。埋于地下虽2000多年,仍光亮如新,锋利的难以想象。在试验中,
heer kaiser 2014 年 4 月 8 日 上午 4:19 
3、装备有坚实精密的金属盔甲。在春秋以前战士的护体设备主要是皮甲,战国时虽然出现了铁甲,但皮甲仍是重要的装备。《荀子·议兵》中就有“楚人鲛革,犀皮以为甲”的说法,表明战国末
heer kaiser 2014 年 4 月 8 日 上午 4:21 
My idea is .. if you would like to keep leather Armor.. why not make chinese units 240 units strong in Ultra Army size to represent the Large numbers of chinese population and Armys
Old Fox  [开发者] 2014 年 4 月 8 日 下午 4:43 
http://www.bmy.com.cn/contents/49/4334.html

in the Qin Dynasty may have Iron armor, but it is certainly a very small amount, So I put on Guard generals, While the ordinary military equipment remains Leather
heer kaiser 2014 年 4 月 8 日 下午 8:26 
would you make an solid back born army, similiar to the general unit, but could be used as main melee force, and can stand toe to toe against vetern or elite infantry of rome for example? ,or for now make general unit as an buildable elite troop?
heer kaiser 2014 年 4 月 8 日 下午 8:31 
My Arugument would Be for having Iorn armor for Qin army, because we are setting this in the alternative universe against the western world, and based on during the late warring period, there is more steel armor avalible. it could Be an neccesary upgrade that Qin army would have used, if they continued to Rule beyond the first emperor of china. 秦二帝 秦三帝 等等. or copper armor because Qin rounded up the entire chinas Copper weapons and melted down, imagined they used it instead to make armor for the soliders of the newly Formed Qin empire?
Old Fox  [开发者] 2014 年 4 月 9 日 上午 3:18 
Maybe I can put a small amount of high-end building, after all, found no real iron armor, the current inferred from stone armor, a small number, probably will not replace the original Leather Suit

或許我可以將少量放在高階建築,畢竟鐵甲並沒有發現實物,目前都是針對石鎧甲的合理推測,也有玩家不喜歡看到這種單位,數量少應該不至於全面取代普通士兵
heer kaiser 2014 年 4 月 11 日 上午 2:28 
well If you put heavy Infantry in high end building . and have it as an expensive elite unit.. as expensive as protorians.. that should limit the number of units fielded. and have the upkeep around same money as roman elite unit..

chinese wepons are forged at higher quality , so maybe we could have higher melee attack, and not as heavy armor .

heer kaiser 2014 年 4 月 11 日 上午 2:38 
i would like to be able to play Qin units alone and win the battles with out building batra units.. if tahts also what you want to do. then could you maybe use general unit troops and make them into an elite troop formation buildable to level 3 or 4 barracks ?
Old Fox  [开发者] 2014 年 4 月 16 日 上午 6:56 
Maybe try on armor Guard Auxiliary less popular yellow building , for example Satrap's Palace
Expected to avoid an excessive number of units and do not deliberately limit the number of units

Forces number increase , Ordinary armor , Slightly higher attack . This is the focus of the current adjustment
heer kaiser 2014 年 4 月 17 日 上午 3:20 
Qin Army is most well trained, it needs to have good melee attack, melee defence, and slightly medium type of armor. but need to have Armor guard indeed. but when will this be implimented ?
[HAN]falcofyc 2014 年 7 月 28 日 下午 9:28 
Qin Armor is made out of steel . during that period they have already perfected Steel armor in many warring states.. its only Qin kingdom have choosen to use Bronze as weapon because they have further perfected bronze even more then any other states. evidence is found from bronze sword from under ground.
铸造武器质地较脆,兵马俑中出土的兵器可能只是冥器——according to Liu ZhanCheng
SpeedyRocket 2014 年 9 月 16 日 下午 7:14 
Is there any way to simulate crossbows?
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