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Portuguese Equipment
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The_Spartan  [开发者] 2020 年 7 月 28 日 上午 10:22
About some of the current Equipment
Some of the current equipment is not exactly in the best place - some of these weapons of war weren't made for the roles I placed them on. But the Portuguese army adapted most of them, for their own uses.

For instance, the first AT the Portuguese got acess to on this mod, was an Italian artillery piece. But it was an artillery capable of shooting HEAT (anti tank) shells. Lacking acess to anti tank weapons, this was the best we (the Portuguese, during 1936-1950) could do - adaptation.

There are also other examples, and I am sure the reader will find them out. The german (tactical) bombers for instance. They were mostly transport airplanes, but many countries (like Portugal) adapted them as bombers.

These things - are nothing grotesque, or unrealistic, thus why I decided to include them as pieces of equipment. Because there weren't other options to pick from, during certain time periods. It is much better than other Portuguese mods out there that decide to include ridiculous and ahistorical things as if they were historical. Some include mostly Italian weapons / airplanes / tanks, while in fact the Italians barely sold us weapons (and never sold us tanks, by the way). 90% of our (imported) equipment came from Britain, USA and Canada, with the remaining 8% being German/Austrian gear and the rest being Italian / french.

All of the equipment included in this mod, is 100% historically correct. You can easily check most on Wikipedia. If Portugal lacked a weapon during a certain time period, I simply left the spot empty. Such is the case of Heavy and Super Heavy Tanks for example.

Also - current included equipment, includes not only local patterns produced in Portugal, but also units sold directly to Portugal. Portugal in most cases had to adapt them somehow though. If people only included local patterns, then most nations would be using default equipment, even for infantry units (mauser for example allowed the production of weapons abroad but in countless cases it was merely the assembly process).
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The_Spartan  [开发者] 2020 年 7 月 29 日 上午 10:42 
There are a few things about the equipment included, notably the 2 air carriers and both the battlecruiser as well both battleships that I wanted to say:

- The first aircarrier in MTG is usually used for carrier conversions, ships that were actually cruiser/battleships and changed all of a sudden into carriers. The Cubango was pretty much like that (a merchant ship transformed into seaplane transporter).
- The second aircarrier was a prototype. Didn't even have a name, but I decided to give the name of its initial planner. It is called a "design" because it was never a class on its own. Much like the Churchil design ship for the UK. It was never created, but the plans were there.
- The battleship Vasco da Gama was also not really a battleship like other european contemporaries in terms of raw tonnelage, but it had that designation on the Portuguese Fleet, and had large enough weapons to be honest (260mm guns for instance!). It also had that role on the fleet, not just the name. As for the batltecruiser, in-game description is enough to say what I want.
- The battleship of Portugal class didn't exist in reality, but the plans, like the 2nd aircarrier included, did. The full story is already written inside the mod if you read the description of the ship.
- Also, about the navy - for non-MTG users, Light Cruisers will be the same as 2nd class avisos, ships used in a more supportive role, usually in the colonies. Heavy cruisers, will be pratically be 1st class avisos - ships used in the same manner, but capable of engaging weaker ships. Some of those were large enough that they even carried one seaplane, usually for recon or as torpedo bomber.

- All heavy tanks / super heavy tanks / amphibious tanks are unrealistic, and included merely because I wanted to fill the space. They do make sense though - Portugal had a lot of Sherman tanks, so they could had been modified into one of those heavy tanks.
最后由 The_Spartan 编辑于; 2020 年 11 月 10 日 上午 8:10
The_Spartan  [开发者] 2020 年 7 月 29 日 上午 10:52 
I just wonder sometimes what the guys at Paradox were doing - the few ships/submarine classes they created, got a TERRIBLE description. They say that the Delfim class subs for instance were all given to the Italian fleet and were never created for the Portuguese navy... THOSE were the intial plans... the UK eventually made the same class of subs and sold them to Portugal!!!! (Italian shipyards started asking more money than what was agreed upon, so the deal was given to the british shipyards instead).

The Douro class is also a 1922 variant... which is, frankly ridiculous, since the Douro class were STATE OF THE ART destroyers, built by mid 1930!!!! Seriously????

Also... the Portuguese fleet got only 9 ships, and they gave only 3 ship technologies for one of the minor countries with most naval territory!!!! Even the greek fleet is far superior in number (they got 16 ships) as well as in technology (greeks got 5 technologies, Portugal got 3, Mexico(!!!!) got 4)!!! Oh lord... No offense towards the greeks or the mexicans frankly, but the greeks were a tiny country compared to Portugal, both in land as well as in population and naval tradition by this time. And Mexico's fleet was pratically non-existant, and so were their traditions as a naval country.

The Portuguese fleet by 1939 actually had something like 30-40 ships, granted, many were too small to be included in the game (Portugal still used gunboats, small ships with relatively big weapons for their size, usually used as almost-stationary vessels for example), but they would have at least 20 ships worthy of being included in the game. But those guys at Paradox sometimes are too funny to be real.
最后由 The_Spartan 编辑于; 2020 年 7 月 29 日 下午 4:52
The_Spartan  [开发者] 2020 年 7 月 29 日 下午 5:35 
I will be locking down this thread. It only exists mostly to provide the user with some insight on why I picked some of the currently chosen equipment for Portugal. If you wish to reply, please use the other thread for that task
最后由 The_Spartan 编辑于; 2020 年 7 月 29 日 下午 5:36
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