Rivals of Aether

Rivals of Aether

Barack Obama
THETURKISHTANK 2019 年 10 月 9 日 上午 10:41
Let's balance Obama and make him legal in future custom character brackets!
Hey y'all this is Seggo top 1 Obama main worldwide rn

This is unironically one of my favorite characters to play rn in the workshop! He is so fun but grossly unbalanced rn. I want him legal for Heat Wave 3 and potentially our locals but he is too strong compared to the other workshop characters. I understand this character is supposed to kinda be a meme but he is too well made for that imo. Before I talk about what makes Obama insane rn I want to talk about a weird skin glitch.

When he runs with a different color his pants color kinda keeps going back into his old default skin. I just want to play white suit Obama without the pants changing colors ;-;
Alright let's talk about what makes him insane rn and what we should change about him. I want people to praise this mod for making seemingly a joke character be made into a unique and sick fighter. Let's talk about the biggest glaring issue rn his Fsmash

Fsmash is the grossest move in the game. THE MOVE COMES OUT FRAME 4!!! It is a smash attack that hits forward with a huge hitbox, spamming this is a viable strategy. The knockback and everything else on this move is fine but it is too rewarding because it is so fast and unpunishable. It needs to be more like Clairen fsmash in terms of startup and lag, or just change it to be like frame 12 or something. This smash attack is faster than Sylv's entire kit it is that gross.

Dsmash is another issue that needs to be looked into. It almost feels like it comes out as fast as orca dsmash but it is his strongest smash attack easily that will kill heavies off a parry at like 70 with some charge. The startup and lag is fine but it should be as strong as orca dsmash not as strong as orca up smash LOL. Maybe make it slightly stronger than orca dsmash since it seems a bit slower on startup, but it is far to strong rn.

Now onto Nair it is pretty big, but it is generally fine because people fall out. But the problem right now is that it does a lot of damage and can be comboed fairly easily. Just make it do less damage and maybe be like Clairen nair. Besides those issues the biggest problem is the angle flipper that is on the move for some reason, please remove that there is no reason it should be there it can kill heavies off the top at 80 due to it.

Fair is another pretty solidly strong tool that is close to being balanced but it is just too strong due to being able to easily combo it out of fsmash. The sour spot is pretty good but nothing that needs nerfs. The spike while small is far too strong and can be hit pretty consistently when you learn the hit box. And it sends straight down making it almost impossible to tech. I prefer if you could di it after being hit or just nerf the knockback to kragg dair.

Neutral b is another move that needs a very simple fix just make it do less damage is all. It is like a fox laser that does 3 or 4 percent I can not remember tbh but just make it do like 2 or 1 percent since it is free damage.

Side b is gross as hell it is also just too strong in its current state. Currently it has no cooldown only endlag, you can have multiple side b's out on the field sliding across the floor. It does a lot of damage and kills at higher percents. You can combo out of it which I think is strong, but fine the biggest problem is how many times you can kinda spam side b without being punished you can parry it but I can still keep throwing side b's and run away. Right now it needs to have a bit less knockback because dtilt side b is a kill confirm off the top at very low percents. Make it do less damage and specifically it needs cooldown to where you can only have one side b out on the field at a time.

Now onto down b the move is fine but the problem is parrying the move gives no reward for the opponent this is an ez fix as well imo, just give Obama parry stun after the move so he can be punished, or reflect it back and be a hitbox. Because if you parry it right now it is just a non existent hitbox and Obama will not get hit for using down b poorly. The opponent should have more defensive options against it imo.

This is not even a move but currently his air speed is far too fast he flies almost like slipstream wrastor you can not catch him. Again make his air speed similar to clairen or something he is far too fast in the air right now.

Other than those moves everything else he has is very well made, and balanced! There are still strong options but are not game breaking like the ones I mentioned and a character can have strong options, but Obama currently has strong options and broken options. Up tilt, dtilt, ftilt, Jab, bair, dair, up air, up smash, dash attack, and up b are all fine.

Developer man who made Obama please consider these changes this funnily enough is one of my favorite characters in the workshop he just needs some changes to be balanced. I really want people to get duffed by my Obama in bracket it will be so sick and funny. Thank you so much for this mod so far!

If you want Mr developer join Obamacord the goal of the discord is to nerf obama so he can be legal in bracket. The discord will be deleted once that goal is reached I only have like 2 channels the only reason I made it was to get your attention.
Link: https://discord.gg/GD2wtBs

Please consider
-Seggo Ahmet Kurter
最后由 THETURKISHTANK 编辑于; 2019 年 10 月 9 日 下午 12:11
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THETURKISHTANK 2019 年 10 月 9 日 上午 10:49 
Ngl I spent a lot more time on this then I want to admit lmao. Also I am not going to take the time to proof read this because I feel like I already spent too much time in making it lol
Obama  [开发者] 2019 年 10 月 9 日 下午 9:31 
I'll look into the problems
Orange 2019 年 10 月 9 日 下午 10:32 
I would suggest a polish in his animations I would love to help in that department and maybe change one of his gun specials to a different move like the chaos emeralds or something
THETURKISHTANK 2019 年 10 月 9 日 下午 10:44 
引用自 Minecraft Obama
I'll look into the problems
Thank you so much! Also let agent orange help you he is making a sicc ryu mod rn.
Obama might be one of the best made characters soon tbh lol
Chuck McGill 2019 年 10 月 12 日 下午 10:59 
I really like playing as busted obama :(

Maybe make another mod for tourney legal Obama
Crust 2019 年 10 月 13 日 下午 8:21 
Definitely agree with a lot said here, but yeah we should keep busted Obama and have another balanced Obama. Sometimes you just want to spam frame 4 fsmash, ya know?
tc.runge 2019 年 10 月 15 日 下午 12:42 
I think fair could also use an aesthetic change, its power seems way out of place and unreasonable for the animation, especially the sweet spot.
The Kriserrrrrrr 2019 年 10 月 15 日 下午 9:47 
Just FYI Down-Special is murder on walk-off stages if the opponent cant dodge easily. Probably not a huge problem for people who CAN dodge it but thought I'd mention it.

Also yes, his NAir is more oppresive than Palutenas in Smash, it's fun :)
THETURKISHTANK 2019 年 10 月 16 日 上午 9:45 
引用自 Shaun moat.gg
I really like playing as busted obama :(

Maybe make another mod for tourney legal Obama

This also is a good idea tbh
THETURKISHTANK 2019 年 10 月 16 日 上午 9:46 
引用自 AF | Crusticus
Definitely agree with a lot said here, but yeah we should keep busted Obama and have another balanced Obama. Sometimes you just want to spam frame 4 fsmash, ya know?

Yeah tbh lol it is pretty fun lol
THETURKISHTANK 2019 年 10 月 16 日 上午 9:47 
引用自 Ice Fox of Camelot
Just FYI Down-Special is murder on walk-off stages if the opponent cant dodge easily. Probably not a huge problem for people who CAN dodge it but thought I'd mention it.

Also yes, his NAir is more oppresive than Palutenas in Smash, it's fun :)

Walk off stages ain't a problem since they are not legal but yeah his nair is pretty good
THETURKISHTANK 2019 年 10 月 16 日 上午 9:47 
引用自 tc.runge
I think fair could also use an aesthetic change, its power seems way out of place and unreasonable for the animation, especially the sweet spot.

Yeah it is very strong and the fire effect seems weird but it is super dope
oofiet 2020 年 2 月 11 日 下午 7:24 
with the neutral b, i believe it should probably be a different move altogether
the pistol is a slightly buffed fox neutral b, but for obama, a short or medium range weapon with more power (but not too much) seems more fitting to me

also, this may be harder to program, but as an alternative idea, down b can be a sort of weapon switcher instead of a sniper, which changes the weapon that neutral b fires
Janek Kozak 2022 年 2 月 6 日 上午 4:25 
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SIMΩMEGA 2023 年 8 月 19 日 下午 5:54 
引用自 Mr. Muslican
Hey y'all this is Seggo top 1 Obama main worldwide rn

This is unironically one of my favorite characters to play rn in the workshop! He is so fun but grossly unbalanced rn. I want him legal for Heat Wave 3 and potentially our locals but he is too strong compared to the other workshop characters. I understand this character is supposed to kinda be a meme but he is too well made for that imo. Before I talk about what makes Obama insane rn I want to talk about a weird skin glitch.

When he runs with a different color his pants color kinda keeps going back into his old default skin. I just want to play white suit Obama without the pants changing colors ;-;
Alright let's talk about what makes him insane rn and what we should change about him. I want people to praise this mod for making seemingly a joke character be made into a unique and sick fighter. Let's talk about the biggest glaring issue rn his Fsmash

Fsmash is the grossest move in the game. THE MOVE COMES OUT FRAME 4!!! It is a smash attack that hits forward with a huge hitbox, spamming this is a viable strategy. The knockback and everything else on this move is fine but it is too rewarding because it is so fast and unpunishable. It needs to be more like Clairen fsmash in terms of startup and lag, or just change it to be like frame 12 or something. This smash attack is faster than Sylv's entire kit it is that gross.

Dsmash is another issue that needs to be looked into. It almost feels like it comes out as fast as orca dsmash but it is his strongest smash attack easily that will kill heavies off a parry at like 70 with some charge. The startup and lag is fine but it should be as strong as orca dsmash not as strong as orca up smash LOL. Maybe make it slightly stronger than orca dsmash since it seems a bit slower on startup, but it is far to strong rn.

Now onto Nair it is pretty big, but it is generally fine because people fall out. But the problem right now is that it does a lot of damage and can be comboed fairly easily. Just make it do less damage and maybe be like Clairen nair. Besides those issues the biggest problem is the angle flipper that is on the move for some reason, please remove that there is no reason it should be there it can kill heavies off the top at 80 due to it.

Fair is another pretty solidly strong tool that is close to being balanced but it is just too strong due to being able to easily combo it out of fsmash. The sour spot is pretty good but nothing that needs nerfs. The spike while small is far too strong and can be hit pretty consistently when you learn the hit box. And it sends straight down making it almost impossible to tech. I prefer if you could di it after being hit or just nerf the knockback to kragg dair.

Neutral b is another move that needs a very simple fix just make it do less damage is all. It is like a fox laser that does 3 or 4 percent I can not remember tbh but just make it do like 2 or 1 percent since it is free damage.

Side b is gross as hell it is also just too strong in its current state. Currently it has no cooldown only endlag, you can have multiple side b's out on the field sliding across the floor. It does a lot of damage and kills at higher percents. You can combo out of it which I think is strong, but fine the biggest problem is how many times you can kinda spam side b without being punished you can parry it but I can still keep throwing side b's and run away. Right now it needs to have a bit less knockback because dtilt side b is a kill confirm off the top at very low percents. Make it do less damage and specifically it needs cooldown to where you can only have one side b out on the field at a time.

Now onto down b the move is fine but the problem is parrying the move gives no reward for the opponent this is an ez fix as well imo, just give Obama parry stun after the move so he can be punished, or reflect it back and be a hitbox. Because if you parry it right now it is just a non existent hitbox and Obama will not get hit for using down b poorly. The opponent should have more defensive options against it imo.

This is not even a move but currently his air speed is far too fast he flies almost like slipstream wrastor you can not catch him. Again make his air speed similar to clairen or something he is far too fast in the air right now.

Other than those moves everything else he has is very well made, and balanced! There are still strong options but are not game breaking like the ones I mentioned and a character can have strong options, but Obama currently has strong options and broken options. Up tilt, dtilt, ftilt, Jab, bair, dair, up air, up smash, dash attack, and up b are all fine.

Developer man who made Obama please consider these changes this funnily enough is one of my favorite characters in the workshop he just needs some changes to be balanced. I really want people to get duffed by my Obama in bracket it will be so sick and funny. Thank you so much for this mod so far!

If you want Mr developer join Obamacord the goal of the discord is to nerf obama so he can be legal in bracket. The discord will be deleted once that goal is reached I only have like 2 channels the only reason I made it was to get your attention.
Link: https://discord.gg/GD2wtBs

Please consider
-Seggo Ahmet Kurter
What's an angle flipper?
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