Ok

chill bro damn

There are many mapping bugs (black wall, brushes not aligned, null textures etc...) so it could have been avoided. The Mod should have been tested more times.

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There are many mapping bugs (black wall, brushes not aligned, null textures etc...) so it could have been avoided. The Mod should have been tested more times.

It was tested, some bugs were intentionaly left unfixed, so I could release it faster, and I never tried to lie to anyone that it was otherwise, because I wanted to release the mod in early access, and I did so multiple times, first version was released in early 2019, completely unpolished, with totally amateur level design solely by me, at that time. But I'm trying my best to always be honest with people playing the mod, and one more version is coming, with multiple fixes and improvements.

And there are many positives of such tactic, instead of releasing it after many years, until it's complete. I've gotten tons of feedback over the years, and thanks to the fact that the mod existed in playable state for other players, they could take interest in it and join ship.

A lot of this is true in my experience, but fr this isn't constructive and also neglects to mention a lot of the good parts of the mod.

yes.

little harsh this is a pretty small project and yet still on level with black mesa blueshift

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little harsh this is a pretty small project and yet still on level with black mesa blueshift

... what?

If you for a second believe this is on par with Black Mesa Blueshift you sir/madam, Is delusional.

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Thwomp:

little harsh this is a pretty small project and yet still on level with black mesa blueshift

... what?

If you for a second believe this is on par with Black Mesa Blueshift you sir/madam, Is delusional.

It was never meant to be on par wtih Black Mesa: Blue Shift. I replied multiple times about it, they have more mappers, more designers, a lot more people in the team. We are very small team, only two mappers, me from beginning and the other one just recently joined the project. If it reaches Black Mesa aesthetic level then it will be a huge success anyway. And that's also because Black Mesa: Blue Shift has even more complex levels than Black Mesa itself.

I never said it was either, the other person claimed to be, i can agree that i might have been harsh about it but i will not back down from the feedback, the mod has alot of factor that it can (and should improve on). And some factors is not so much a question about can or should, but closer to a near must to keep it to a decent standard.

The biggest problem is that to my understanding there is another mapper that did the first couple of map but you can clearly see a drastic change of quality at the later stages of the game. And the newer maps still have some smaller issues.

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I never said it was either, the other person claimed to be, i can agree that i might have been harsh about it but i will not back down from the feedback, the mod has alot of factor that it can (and should improve on). And some factors is not so much a question about can or should, but closer to a near must to keep it to a decent standard.

The biggest problem is that to my understanding there is another mapper that did the first couple of map but you can clearly see a drastic change of quality at the later stages of the game. And the newer maps still have some smaller issues.

True, that's because I developed the later maps myself years ago, and they were only improved, not reworked. A lot of them will be reworked now.

I agree w most these points, but enjoyed the mod over all id say 5.5/10 was def a cool little mod, but feels hollow due to many of these points.

i found it interesting that military seems to fill the niche of "opposing force except youre actually meant to be killing scientists"
but then when i played, i found it very confusing that the game is clearly trying to show you killing scientists is bad (the guy speaking up in the plane, the platoon saying scientists surrendered without a fight and a few are still alive showing that platoon didnt entirely want to kill innocents, the guy calling out another marine for executing one) and never gives you the incentive as the player to be evil, while your teammates are basically just "oh, boss told us to kill people, guess we have to murder without complaint"

so im just really confused, if youre supposed to be evil why does the intro set itself up as a bad thing to do and that the marines clearly have a choice whether they will or not as not all of them are murdering onsight, and your teammates themselves seem undecided on the matter taking it as "just orders", only to require you murder scientists that would only help you??
if youre supposed to be playing as a more evil HECU marine, why not just show everybody as evil, rather than showing the moral conflict between marines but giving no choice yourself, why not make a reason to kill the scientists rather than keep them alive, even just the companions talking about killing the scientists or not before reaching them and reacting after its done would make it feel more fitting, i thought they were unsure so why are they shooting up the place the moment the see a guy in a labcoat, id think theyd at least hesitate and wait untill their de facto leader makes the call for them

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i found it interesting that military seems to fill the niche of "opposing force except youre actually meant to be killing scientists"
but then when i played, i found it very confusing that the game is clearly trying to show you killing scientists is bad (the guy speaking up in the plane, the platoon saying scientists surrendered without a fight and a few are still alive showing that platoon didnt entirely want to kill innocents, the guy calling out another marine for executing one) and never gives you the incentive as the player to be evil, while your teammates are basically just "oh, boss told us to kill people, guess we have to murder without complaint"

so im just really confused, if youre supposed to be evil why does the intro set itself up as a bad thing to do and that the marines clearly have a choice whether they will or not as not all of them are murdering onsight, and your teammates themselves seem undecided on the matter taking it as "just orders", only to require you murder scientists that would only help you??
if youre supposed to be playing as a more evil HECU marine, why not just show everybody as evil, rather than showing the moral conflict between marines but giving no choice yourself, why not make a reason to kill the scientists rather than keep them alive, even just the companions talking about killing the scientists or not before reaching them and reacting after its done would make it feel more fitting, i thought they were unsure so why are they shooting up the place the moment the see a guy in a labcoat, id think theyd at least hesitate and wait untill their de facto leader makes the call for them

Because it's up to a player, what sort of marine he will be. The mod doesn't force player to kill a single scientist, so the player can only witness the orders being carried out, but not do the deeds himself. It is possible to leave the scientists be, if player is alone without teammates too. Or you can shoot every scientist you encounter, it's all a matter of choice and immersion. The players themselves decide their morality. And story wise, Steven Mills, the protagonist, is not given obligatory orders to execute scientists, like some other marines, he has other tasks, regardless of if he is a sadist or good man.