Maybe it could have a + move speed increase (10%)
- saps slower (10%)
seems balanced enough?

-when sapper attached it makes a loud noise
+10% sap speed

引用自 Ron：

-when sapper attached it makes a loud noise
+10% sap speed

seems to fit a television pefect.

引用自 Ron：

-when sapper attached it makes a loud noise
+10% sap speed

Considering the engineer can see if his things are being sapped no matter where he is, the loud noise doesn't seem like much of a penalty. The only niche use would be it alerts any pyros who have sapper-breaking weapons.

引用自 ♥♥♥♥♥♥：

引用自 Ron：

-when sapper attached it makes a loud noise
+10% sap speed

Considering the engineer can see if his things are being sapped no matter where he is, the loud noise doesn't seem like much of a penalty. The only niche use would be it alerts any pyros who have sapper-breaking weapons.

Maybe the noise would also play (albeit quieter) from the one the Spy is holding?

引用自 rainbowsnivy：

引用自 ♥♥♥♥♥♥：

Considering the engineer can see if his things are being sapped no matter where he is, the loud noise doesn't seem like much of a penalty. The only niche use would be it alerts any pyros who have sapper-breaking weapons.

Maybe the noise would also play (albeit quieter) from the one the Spy is holding?

A;so near by team mates will hear more easy and find out

I think for a reinforced sapper:

+it needs to be hitted 4 times to be removed by wrench
-10% sap speed

引用自 SunCrack ♍：

I think for a reinforced sapper:

+it needs to be hitted 4 times to be removed by wrench
-10% sap speed

Not meaning to be rude or anything, but I don't think this would be suited to being a reinforced sapper and even if it was, 4 wrench hits seems too OP and it would need to sap WAY slower to balance it or have other disadvantages.

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引用自 SunCrack ♍：

I think for a reinforced sapper:

+it needs to be hitted 4 times to be removed by wrench
-10% sap speed

No, Just No Here IT would need to be hit 3 or 2 Times with -15% Sap Speed, anyone with me?

引用自 rainbowsnivy：

引用自 SunCrack ♍：

I think for a reinforced sapper:

+it needs to be hitted 4 times to be removed by wrench
-10% sap speed

Not meaning to be rude or anything, but I don't think this would be suited to being a reinforced sapper and even if it was, 4 wrench hits seems too OP and it would need to sap WAY slower to balance it or have other disadvantages.

hows about 50% slower?

Level 1: 9.00 s
Level 2: 10.80 s
Level 3: 12.96 s
Mini-Sentry: 6.00 s
(Got my original times wrong)
This would be 50% slower.

Level 1: 7.50 s
Level 2: 9.00 s
Level 3: 10.80 s
Mini-Sentry: 5.00 s
This would be 25% slower so I think it would probs be 3 wrench hits for removal + 25% slower sap speed.

引用自 whateew：

引用自 Ron：

-when sapper attached it makes a loud noise
+10% sap speed

seems to fit a television pefect.

Agreed

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Im thinking of making it have a faster sap speed, but when the spy saps something he undisguises.