Both of you stop this such of feud, who's versions of this map better or not will be on soneones view, even the map can be bugged and one version of this is better, this is going too far.

Aww, is that because the AI Navigation isn't as Exploitable as before? :P

nobody gives a sh!t about Fusion, it is cancer. No suprise you like it :D
And F off with your boxes, why you dont go marry em since you love em so?

How much ammo can you get in your map? 30 cannon balls in every 2 secs!!!!
And on my map? 4+4 in every 45 secs, learn math before you go comparing your and my map spawns. Basic americans...

And The Rain was in the original, same with Fog, the dirt was my idea. :V

And Walking Support is fixed, so you cant run out of map in Fusion.

It is when you make enough distinct changes to call it yours, which the Fusion port will soon show. ;)

And point to the numerous "Missing" Textures that you claim because obviously the Motherload didnt give me much to work with, and nice to see you like to instigate stuff still.

And technically speaking your map also is guilty of infinite ammo, in the form of the laughable respawning "limited" ammo, which means its infinite by technicality and even easier than Ammo crates since you can just run over them to pick them up, unlike in Fusion, you actually need to stand next to the crate to get it. :P

And Infinte Armor, you mean the only 100 Armor and Health in the map? Or the 50 HP and AP?

But I want to be fair and tell few good things about this map:
Good work ripping off croteams Bear city and calling it yours.
Also good that you dont mention dude who made those textures you took, who needs that.
(It was sarcasm, if you don't get it)

DONT waste your time on this!

Everything wrong in this map:
Map missing many textures and lightmaps. Unfinishhed, unbalanced. Infinite ammo, infinite hp, infinite armor. (someone have not played survival)
Ammo crates which enemies get stuck (they get stuck everywhere)
Stupid "rain", fog and mudslide on ground.
Why you dont fill up holes on fortress? And you still can run out of map

Bad mapper, worse "port", worst map. Score: 1/10 (dunno where that 1 score came :D)

Thats nice.

kind of awsome and boring mod burn in hell

You realize that Valerie can sue you for forgery right? And you didn't even spell it right, ypu just copy pasted Val's message, are you literally incapable of anything original? :D

Kamahl: The difference here is that Harbinger's DMCA takedown is legit, your attempts at it isn't. Go be butthurt elsewhere.

Oh, maked video of this map and why it sucks so badly (if you don't already know):
https://youtu.be/tdpf2S-49cg

So you mean don't sub to your map, got it. :P

Hey Kamahl, just letting you know that you can be taken to court for falsely taking down other people's items. This map is not yours, it will never be. Go make your own.

Yo Kamahl) You thought you can insulting friends who help you doing survival records by the way, and all will be ok? You know I told you many times I dont like that. People have limit of patience yo retard. I see your little brain still continue do idiot things)
"even a picture would show my maps superiority" Ye ye, typical Kamahl with an exaggerated sense of superiority :D

Nice profile update :P

"Enemies:
(Old friends) In order starting from worst:
1.Les Grossman 2.Harbinder 3.Waala Lokoo 4.king1 5.Squirrel Valerie 6.3mst1"

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/124/447/054.jpg
Good work boy, good work :DD

So Fullbright makes your map better than mine? Do tell.

And also, yes my PC is old, but graphics has nothing to do with proper lighting which even on your 'beast' of a machine can't even accomplish that.

Bunch of noobs can't survive without infinite ammo and infinite hp (you too Les) :DDD
Having fun in that black map without textures? Or your Pc don't run it higher than on low settings?
And I Valerie can't even count to 1000 so how does he know.
+ You did not even play my map, you just want to suck harbs @ss.
Got to make a comparison video of my bear city now so even you blinds see it. (even a picture would show my maps superiority)

F**k you Les, nobody wants you here.
Anyway carry this infinite war in this chat, not under on that ugly eye burning map of yours.

So after this gets taken down, I will upload my bear city back and see who laughs :D
But I get it. You got too envy because I maked better port of bear city than you. It is ok, you were beaten by the best

Good map I like it. Sad that some retard angry kids like Kamahl trying to steal it

1000x better than Kamahl's shitty ripoff version of it.

@Warmonger now that you mention it, it is kinda trivialized, Not really sure when to come back around to this.

Putting all ammo crates on the top and none below trivializes this map, it's not interesting tactically anymore. Also there's no point to slow down enemy spawns just to make it twice as long.

@JT Marsh .......Wait?

Somebody remind him that he has completed a campaign for Serious Sam 2 ("Toxic mountains", "Water canyons" campaign)

Your vote of confidence has been noted Noam.

Thanks it is working now

Oh, you have a vid, that Decal movement was strange because that never happened on my end.

But rest assured there will be hotfixes.

Well it is important for you to know what should be fixed. Also you was lucky when last message could only be 1000 letters long, there would have been some too :P
But I recorded my run that you could see how it works:
https://youtu.be/_hOqXqrH00c

@Kamahl

Well in HD you had ammo packs which do respawn and I prefer not to just be dumping ammo all over the place to emulate an Ammo Pack which they really should bring back in SS4.

Gold is 20 mins.

1.I have No fall Damage on so I wasn't aware that the jump can kill you.
2.They get stuck because their Collision can't move between the objects and the wall.
3. Sry, not down with the delay message.
4.steep large ramps makes them get stuck due to not being able to climb up fast enough.

Its only slightly bigger because Player Model size is bigger in HD.

Stop Complaining, I'll fix it.

@Harbinger it is your job to make map suitable so you can't start balancing too much enemies with infinite hp, armor and ammo!

I tried to say earlier that map was TOO EASY in single player so now I played it on Coop too.
I got gold medal on first time in single AND around 15 min in coop...But mordecai boss spawned on it atleast
New bugs I found:
1. Those stupid jump pads just instant kill you when they fly you to wrong direction or not high enough sometimes
2. Khnums and big enemies get stuck on ammo boxes.
3. Weapons don't spawn at same time. (One time sniper spawned on 2 min and then it spawned same time as deva) and also text message when they have spawned can be even minutes late.
4. Enemies don't know how to jump and can't get to 100 hp (you can make them "climb" 90 degree steps)

Then why the F'ck we even have fall damage on!? You know that you can put it off?
+Noticed that map scale is wrong.

So I won't recomend THIS VERSION of map to anyone.

Good but Hard XD

@Kamahl Well technically without respawning health and armor you'd get mulch in seconds and its not like you can easily camp this map and if you look in SSHD editor, Mordekai does indeed spawn, and its rain, just dense rain, the difficulty ramps up pretty high later on but yes if you were only there for a few minutes there are a few enemies you can camp but bouncers would balance it out.

@Thanadrax What I am trying here, Like there is a few things missing and that will be fixed in time.

This map I still do not work :(

As i aid, he could just make it like in SSHD, and there would be no problem at all. Sigh. xD

I really wanted to like this map but can't, just can't :(

WTF is that stupid effect on screen? smoke, rain? Well it looks bad.
And same misstake like on all bad survival maps, infinite ammo, HP AND armor! It is supposed to be SURVIVAL, not camping in the park with few enemies there and hp every 30 sec >:(
And ofcourse there is not traps, I am fine with that, but other enemies? Well it is just not bear city anymore. Dunno what map have you been playing in TSE :D
And have you even noticed that map is missing lightmaps? :P There are just dark spots on map.

But all that can be fixed, at least remove respawning of armor and hp. Also Remove whole devastator and cannon ammo boxes (they were on on bear city in the 1st place)
But those ammoes should be shared by all players, not infinite ammo for all players (like on bear city :P)

Now that map is 5/10 when it is unfinished. It could be a lot better.

no, easy
I got a gold too easy

hard

I was thinking of two versions, one with HD Enemies, the other with my selection.

This is NOT port if it has something else but SSHD enemies.