@Mentro, that is a problem of ADMC and doge ideas, this patch for dwarven knowledge doesn't have any issues in itself.

What you have is a common issue, I encountered it some times myself but what it would need is a patch between ADMC and doge ideas ( which breaks 2 mts ) and doge goods ( which breaks one MT )

it seems that there is a compatibility problem with the ideas mod and the mod all dwarven missions combined continued, the conflict is for the 2 holds of Ovdal Lodhum and Ovdal Tungr. both of the holds have the default tree when i activate the decision to show all trees, when i played one of these holds it had its own tree again, so i believe the conflict has something to do with ideas modifying the two trees and these modifications not carrying over to the other mod i believe.

thanks

If you want to use Xorme+Doge+Dwarven Knowledge but the ideas bug out, you can just delete the folders for common/ideas in xorme and xorme anbennar compatch, im not sure of the changes in ai behavior for doing this but ai countries do still pick the new Doge ideas

After many tedious tries I think in fact I cant add your patch midgame
I played to 1555 before I realised im missing the missions. Looks like this game is scrap

You mean DK’s mission tree or your country’s mission tree?
If it is the country MT, it is probably Doge ideas fault, if it is DK’s … most likely a dependency issue which prevents the MT from getting loaded properly but that is strange if you say everything else works as intended

I have base mod+dwarven knowledge+doge idea+this patch, everything works, but the mission tree is never there, I tried every load order

Yep, I swapped out ACE for the submod the Amldirh mission tree is from and it worked. Thanks!

It is probably ACE's fault, idk why but they have the ideas files in their mod, even if they don't change anything in them: it is probably that which is causing issues.

I'm getting doubled vanilla ideas still. I'm not running xorme but I am running monuments and ACE - Anbennar Content Expanded for the Amldihr rework.

Patch doesn't work, all vanilla idea are bug

issue with the doubled ideas for trade, diplomatic, defensive etc. i mean

If people still have an issue with dwarven knoweldge + doge + xorme, you can make a compatch pretty easily. the issue is that doge moves some vanilla ideas to separate files while xorme keeps them in the same files, so the vanilla ideas are present twice and dont overwrite each other. You can just force overwrite the doge files like _01_dip_ideas.txt etc and remove the vanilla ideas from there - you do this by making a new mod and specifying doge & xorme as a dependency. If you want to retain the doge changes to base idea groups (like admin) you can overwrite the base ideas as well by using xorme and changing it accordingly - i couldnt be bothered myself

Last time someone reported that bug (on the discord) it was xorme ai’s fault

The colonization bug is not from here, you are probably using too many submods at the same time. If you want, try posting the mod list

oh and the fix is not working for me :(

and i have the colinization bug as well.. any tips for that?

i am having the same bug, but i am just starting a new playthrough so thanks for the fix!

I'm just recording if anyone else sees it, maybe it is an internal paradox load order thing, but if anyone else sees it, my solution does work, but save will be lost

idk what to tell you honestly, that bug had been reported as you saw yourself but i have never been able to recreate it so I can't say anything

unfortunately it also breaks my save to fix it ugh ah well.

idk if I did it right, but what I did instead of pasting doge over yours, I pasted your patch over the doge ideas. It getts rid of the double ideas

having the same issue of seeing double some doge ideas. Sadly you cannot buy the second set and thus cannot get the policy unlock @no name you said you fixed it by putting the doge ideas files inside the common folder of this mod? I tried that myself but I still get double. I tried also copying doge files and removing doge from my list, but then I just get default ideas so not sure

thanks

It is needed for dwarven knowledge too

Is it needed for "Dwarven Knowledge" too?

Is it only valid for "Experimental"?

for me the base game ideas seem to work fine

Crashes from colonization tooltip are most commonly associated with on_action file, or rather, not creating a separate one for your own additions

Anyway, thanks for sharing a fix

Crashes on colonization are not from this or DK.
I have to try and understand why adding the common folder with the ideas fix the issue, and why I don't have this issue

I get crashes when I colonize, but that might be something else, not sure. But copying the idea folder does fix that earlier issue

I'll test the same later tonight

I managed to fix it by copying the ideas folder from doges mod to the common folder of this mod but i still don't know why it wasn't working in the first place.

Same, doing some testing and all my exploration ideas are doubled.

It is definitely this mod because disabling it but have doge's mod and your base mod active doesn't break the idea groups i just don't know why.

No, the dependency is correct, I will re-upload just to be sure it is correctly loaded

let me check the dependency real quick

Could it be because this requires the experimental version and not the normal one?

running only doge's mod works fine with the rest of my mod it only breaks with this and your base mod active.

Reverse it, but honestly Eu4 doesn’t care about load order much, everything is handled by mods’ dependencies, so it probably won’t change anything.
I am almost sure this is a doge only issue

I also have a similar problem with the new game, please tell me what should be the order in the mod table?
Maybe this is the result of this.

- Patch
- Dwarven K
- Doge Ideas

or a different order

Thai only overwrite a the administrative technology file, to add the idea slots. It doesn’t touch the ideas files themselves. I am also currently doing a run with this and doges ideas so I can guarantee it works,

Either this or the base mod is breaking the base game idea groups by doubling the ideas making it so you can't complete them but the doge's mod works fine alone.

This doesn't need updating, it works

understandable and no worries either way thank you for answering

Nothing is impossible but it would require considerable effort. Maybe I will do it once the I update the main dwarven knowledge

any plans to eventually make it compatible with doges buildings or is that impossible due to the nature of the two mods?