do you ever plan on making a HL:A styled citizens ver of this?

please make a compatibility patch with this mod - https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3368588840&searchtext=black+mesa +

@A Paranoid Schizophrenic
No, this only changes their model and citizen types to be unique. Plus, I'm pretty sure it's not possible to change a citizen's health without some extra map logic involved. You probably have a mod that alters skill.cfg, which is the file that controls NPCs health among other things related to difficulty.

did you happen to lower griggs health by any change cause he keeps dying from a few hits from antlions?

Hey, can anybody tell me how to spawn griggs and sheckley with console commands?

@Feruz
Yes, I'm using another mod for that. I believe it is refugee styled clothing or something like that, only his face is meant to change.

male_06's face has changed, but his clothes haven't changed, as in the screenshot, is that how it should be?

can idiots screw in a light bulb?

Can you make a hatlss ver
For sheckley pis?

pretty cool idea detail they had :D

Sheckley´s helmet is a ww2 german stahlhelm

@Spyler the destroyer
Yeah, you might see it with the arrival of the next wave of addons (compability fixes, and some other stuff.)

I just wanted to have new facemaps for Griggs, but I just couldn't picture him as anything else but the Sandro medic face. So I modified the base one (btw the new male generic medic is named David! Since most facemaps have a name, I thought I'd give him one too.)

Id love to see a version of this that doesn't modify male_06 medic, i think the bandages add just enough to make griggs unique enough from the rest.

Then it was probably something Valve did when they made the map, it isn't too big of a problem.

@Tonyyo45
Good to know, though I'd like to take a look at the source code of HL2 to see how the game determines which lines a model uses.

As for the specific line thing, I have no idea. This only modifies two entities, the Griggs and Sheckley NPCs. This changes their citizen type to be 4 and their models, citizentype 4 is needed so npc_citizen can use custom models, it is used in NPCs like Odessa. So yeah, it doesn't mess with any scripted lines or important names.

Just tested it again without the vocal diversity mod enabled and had no issues with wrong lines, although I am 90% sure the line asking if Freeman has ever seen an antlion is supposed to be said by Sheckley, not Griggs, but that is probably a mistake by Valve.

I thought I had seen that before, but I guess forgot about it. Unfortunately that mod hasn’t been updated to the 20th anniversary version of the map so I will wait until it gets updated, but I can respect you not wanting to reupload someone else’s mod and I look forward to the fixes you do make. When I get some free time I will test the map a few times to see if I hear any female lines or if it was just that other mod I had installed.

@Tonyyo45
https://gamebanana.com/mods/476809
It already exists, just not in the workshop. And it is also compatible with this, Sector C mods and Bad Cop in the episodes.
I'm afraid I can't upload it myself since it's not my work, and reuploading things that aren't mine is just not the way I like to work.
I'll add compability fixes for the mods that are ON the workshop. This means: Black Mesa Sector C, Sector C remaster (normal and disaster lighting).

I thought the lines problem came because they use unique citizen models, and the game might not be able to recognize their gender since the path to their models isn't hard coded like I assume the others are.

I think it was because of a mod I had, I was using the vocally diverse citizen mod (which doesn’t work properly in the episodes) when I disabled it and played through this section again I tried to listen closely to the dialogue and I didn’t notice any female dialogue, but I saw Griggs use a Sheckley line, “Hey doc, you even seen an antlion before?” Maybe Griggs is supposed to say that, but it sounded like Sheckley’s voice. If I had the time I would test it a few more times myself, but I have been a bit busy lately and forgot about it. Also, if you are making compatibility fixes, could you please make a fix to change the soldier in the Gman cutscene to Bad cop from EZ2?

However, I'm working on compability fixes. So soon you may see compability patches for all those mods that replace the Sector C cutscene in ep2_outland_02.

@fuck king
You must be having a conflicting mod, another mod that replaced ep2_outland_02 like G-Man Sector C cutscene or similar.
@Tonyyo45
I never really encountered this before, if I had to guess it's because the game can't determine their gender. And sadly that's probably hard coded, so I don't know if I can find a workaround for it.

didn't work for me, they just kept using default models

I noticed that sometimes one or both one them use a female reloading line.

custom sandy and laszlo when?

Yes, there's even an official support. https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3368304726
Griggs and Sheckley clothing are completely independent of the other clothing files. The only thing that could conflict would be the male_06 generic medic facemap, but that is simply fixed by putting this mod above that one in the load order.

is this mod compatible with this one? https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3367890918&searchtext=hd+citizens

ah i dunno, sounds like the vorts would say.

what the hell does that mean anyway?

Be adequate!

idk how to phrase it correctly, but thank you

What do you mean exactly?
Yes, this mod aims to replace these two citizens in EP2 chapter 2, cuz I like them. It'd be pretty weird to see every male_06 with bandages.

even if they use the same models they used, they wont be modded?

wait, so, this mod changes THESE SPECIFIC citizens and not anyone else??

Dark and gritty

@erickg47
1. Restart your game after subscribing
2. Make sure you don't have any conflicting addons, mods that change ep2_outland_02.

addon dosent work i want a refund

i felt these guys deserved a bit more screen time, this helps them fleshed out as unique characters for this segment of episode 2. Great job!!!

Fixed and fully working! Please report any problems you have with it.
Thanks for the patience, and have fun!

I'm not even sure if map replacements work, i hope so

I see, that's why i can't edit it. Guess i'll try reuploading it once i'm sure it works.
I also can't upload anything as of right now, not sure why. This whole situation is pretty strange for me, and i don't seem to find any answers

The game marked this as broken.

also i dont see any griggs and sheckley tags so i think i gotta download this throught gamebanana (sad)

i think the reason why mods dont work without tags is because the tags are used to know what the mod changes (such as guns, npcs, etc)

@God's drunkest advisor
Solid Griggs and Big Sheck?!?!?! The man who sold the mine

oh no not me I never lost control
you're face to face

Blud thinks he's the man who sold the world

@xdxdxd you might have to create a new addon using the in game uploader since you probably used steam cmd in order to upload this addon

@unoriginal name
That's quite strange, for some reason the in-game workshop uploader doesn't let me update it either last time i tried.
I'll try again later, once Synergy's rebel rush is over

the reason it doesnt work is because there isnt any tags, which breaks mods (idk why)

In the meantime, I recommend to use the gamebanana alternative. Create a "custom" folder in the Half-Life 2/ep2 folder and drop the required files into it

@portable fridge
Fix is being worked on, I suspect maybe I have to upload it as a map in order for it to replace base maps and lmp files as intended