Nice

@Fengxian0830 If I remember correctly, legendary heroes also join your army when you Confederate.

Could you have him take Isabella too when taking Vlad?

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With mixer unlocker there is in vampire count a banshee leader which made all her vasals to receive undead trait

@nclark381 It can be done, but I don't understand under what premise the rest of the gods would take the services of other lords. @Potato0 No, this only works by culture

could this be added to Azazel tho?

Can you make this for all the chaos gods?

@Baligdur This mod doesn't use scripts, maybe you have a mod that adds something to Morathi or it's a limitation of the game

I did mange to confederate Morathi but turn after I recruit her, I get a script break.

slaanesh will receive changes soon, for the moment do not touch anything

The mod isn't working for me, I can't recruit him.

I would really like to achieve a similar fantasy by slightly different means. Is it possible to adjust the way "request army" works on vassals?
specifically, allowing to request the main army of a faction (thus temporarily controlling the faction leader, with an army of his faction - including legendary lords).

If possible, it would be also nice to make it possible to extend the time the army stays under the players control, or simply making it easier to keep requesting the same army back to back.

@RobFoxtrot I could do it but there are a couple of reasons why I don't really like the idea of ​​doing it the same way, first I would like to do it but only for human factions and second I would like those human leaders to become undead (which I don't know how to do). Putting a "living" general in charge of an undead army could cause some problems. Finally, I would like to say that this works by culture, I cannot make this mechanic work only for a specific lord, at least not using this method.

Hi,
could you create a mod for the Vampire Counts and Arkhan that would do the same as this one?
Thx in advance

@Leflair I could do something similar to what you would like, all the factions of the counts could steal the leaders of the human factions

Great mod idea, one of the things I've wanted for a long time is for Vlad/Isabella to be able to "turn" Empire (or all human) legendary lords - directly into their faction, or to vassalize.

@noobshi5 No, only Slaanesh faction

Does this works for Azazel? I capture the last settlement but I can't seem to recruit the lord of that faction.

I got used with the "All Diplomatic Options - Vassalize, Liberate, Confederate" mod since the Warhammer "1" days, imo it's a essential mod that improves diplomacy significantly (the AI remains braindead... I honestly don't know if the game has tables that alters the chance of vassalage and etc), so it's not unusual in my experience to see different races vassalizing each other in this Warhammer "trilogy", but to "steal" a faction leader is something else entirely in my pov, it makes perfect sense for Slaanesh and evil conquerors such as Be'Lakor, Daniel and partially Archaon... but for everyone else, not so much

Yep, the shortcomings of a mod like this one is how it affects the entire culture, so it's hard to make it "thematic". To allow Be'Lakor to dominate and "steal" Kairos, Ku'gath and so on, you are also allowing other Warriors of Chaos factions to do the same. I guess this remains thematic regarding Archaon... well, I guess a script can do the trick, but I am not familiar with the lua language. If you give it a shot, I will be curious to see your new spin to this mod

@Gleen Cross This mechanic works by culture, it is interesting what you mentioned if it could be interesting even for other factions to have the opportunity to get all the leaders of the empire, for example if you defeat them with another faction of the empire.
Regarding the fact that a servant of Khorne would never submit, I am not so sure, obviously a Bleeder would never submit, but a demon prince could fall, I think it depends more on the individual than on his culture. Maybe I'll give this a spin, it seems interesting to me.

It's all about interpretation about "seduction" at the end of the day, seems like the race of men and elves are more easily inclined to corruption, then you have dwarfs being too stubborn (even the chorfs have their own chaos god instead of following one of the four), Khorne would never submit to Slaanesh, etc...

I intend to take a look at your mod, try to figure it out stuff. I was thinking about making a request for you, if you are interested, how about adapt this mod to Be'lakor (or the Warriors of Chaos faction, I guess we can't isolate the subfactions), to make him steal the daemon faction leaders? I think a mod like this makes sense for Be'lakor lorewise, if you conquer the last settlement of Kairos for example, you can force Kairos to serve you as a lord. Be'lakor is trying to take over the Chaos gods, so I guess it makes sense for him to dominate their daemon champions (also, the "Victory Conditions Overhaul" mod covers that concept as well). Same logic goes for Daniel

@Gleen Cross I don't know why you say this, but in the original game you can seduce any unit, so I don't see why you can't seduce any lord. If you say it by lore, there are many more races that are seductive at first sight like the dwarves, but in addition to that, people only tend to focus on the sexual aspect to seduce on the part of Slaanesh, but this is not the case, it is the faction of excesses. I would like to seduce a ogre, I would not go for the sexual part but for gluttony, excess in terms of food for example and thus I would look for a way to enter each individual. That said, if you want to create a version by cutting out the possible objectives, you can do so, a mention would be appreciated.

It would be cool if this mod was limited to elf and human factions

Thank you for your response!

@남에스 This works because of Culture, if you want sigval to do this it would have to belong to the culture of slaanesh

I'm so happy to know this mod! Can I use it as a sigvald as well?

@Liquid_Paradox I'm glad you have more fun playing with this mod. Why recruit allied units when you can steal them https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3175283222

Incidentally, I freaking love this mod, and I feel like it just makes N'Kari more fun to play. Even the stolen lords' army-specific buffs don't go to waste when taking into account allied recruitment, which I love - and then there are faction wide buffs, like reduced research time on elves and global recruitment on dwarves (not to mention faction-wide unit buffs like +10% defense which makes an army of basically naked gimps a lot tougher without feeling OP because 10% of barely anything is still barely anything lol)

Anyways, gonna look for a mod now that removed the allied recruitment cap so that vassals also feel more useful. I personally think that it makes sense for Slaanesh to have more mixed units available since his entire thing is seduction, and i think it would be fun to have entire armies of Vassal units so I can mix and match amazing combos.

@Liquid_Paradox Don't worry friend, these things happen, I didn't think about that either, honestly

Right. So, justa fonal confirmation that there's nothing wrong with this mod, only my brain: went and purchased "the prince and the paunch" and sure enough, now I can recruit princes. Sorry for my dumb, carry on, have a thumb for your troubles XD

okay so... every now and then in life, you figure something out and realise that you're an idiot. Well, this just happened to me, and it's pretty embarrassing because it's so fucking obvious.

I don't have the fucking high elves dlc's or warhammer 2.

The other faction I tried this with was vampire coast and guess what? I don't have them either.

So, I'm going to go tuck my tail between my legs and hide in the corner of shame. And then take out some bretonians. and maybe pick up warhammer 2, which it might be too late for me to get it on sale after that warhammer event.

@Liquid_Paradox The only thing I can think of is that you have some mod that prevents confederations. I just tried a campaign with slaanesh and was able to get an elf prince. The mods that cancel the effects of confederations do not return the effect in the middle of games, I would try to start a test game and see if you can get the first prince, you should be able to get him on the third turn (by recruiting and taking out an army extra with devotees)

Well, I removed the other two mods, and it's still not working. There's no extra tab under heroes or lords. I wondered if maybe it has to be from their home faction but that doesn't seem to make a difference. I do have the option to confederate a faction, but I never get access to it's lords or heroes, even after it tells me they have "recovered from battle"

However, I did notice that Felix and Gotrek seemed to have joined the empire, I'm not sure if that's a base game feature or not. Not sure if that helps at all haha

Still not working, I have to assume it's either one of my other mods (just "Fudging Vassals" And "No diplomatic penalties for having vassals")

@Liquid_Paradox There is nothing special you have to do, new tabs should have appeared where you can recruit, as seen in the photos. Maybe it's a matter of incompatibility with another mod, I don't really know, if something occurs to me I'll tell you.

i'm a little confused. I confederated a high elf faction as N'Kari, and after a few turns it said that the lord and the prince were ready for battle, but I can't select them from lord recruitment or hero recruitment. Am I doing something wrong?

@Felix the Brat They already asked me before, this works by culture so it would have to be given to all dark elves

im looking for this mod but for morathi to complete the slaaneshi theme i am going with her would it be possible ;3

nice mod, and I will try later QwQ

I want to collect legendary heroes

@HotPizza87 I guess not, I've never tried it. Unless you have a mod that unlocks items when they reach the necessary level, but ultimately I don't know.

If I steal Heinrich Kemmler can he still get his legendary items if he hasn't got them yet? I really want the Chaos Tomb Blade.

You haven't experienced evil laughter until you've put Skarbrand at the head of a Slaanesh army.

@TdizzleGod It should work with any other mod unless that mod adds a new culture to the game, and the most that could happen is that you can't "seduce" faction leaders who belong to that culture.

does this mod have any compatibility issues? specifically with modded factions

ok thx for answering that i test it myself no problem at all for now

@Felixdogdog1314 It should work with any other mod unless that mod adds a new culture to the game, and the most that could happen is that you can't "seduce" faction leaders who belong to that culture.

hi sir is it ok to use with big mods like radious?

Plus Valkia,