Makes sense, I wasn't really sure if it utilized the normal offspring logic or not.

Its possible I was hitting the metabolism limiter so it decided to prune the list of those genes.

@DanZinagri
Slime Proliferation predates Better Gene Inheritance significantly.

It should probably plug into that mod when available though tbh. I had somewhat forgotten about it.

Not certain but it seems the slime proliferation isn't 100% working with things like the gene inheritence mod. I say this because i used the ability and somehow the offspring lacked the slime accumulation/composition genes despite both parents having it.
I thought maybe it was an issue where it did cleanup on disabled genes because those don't take effect until 3, but the slimes are born at age 3 automatically, so...no idea.

Now if this doesn't use the normal offspring rules and bypasses that mod that would make sense, but in itself would mean something is weird where it lacks consistency on shared genes? (For context i had this happen with a Emperor Slime and a Elixer Slime)

Exempt might be a bit much, but reducing the restriction could be a cool idea.

I'll look into it.

with the parasitism update this is an idea: slimes are exempt from size restrictions since they can compact themselves when parasitizing the host

i want semi translucent slimes

Good to hear! Just to clarify, I mean the message alert on the bottom right, not the thought in the pawn's needs tab (which i wouldn't care about).

Seems like I only patched the Ideology-DLC versions of the thoughts. I'll fix that in the next version.

@Dj0z
The Unhappy Nudity thought should be disabled (0 mood chagge)t by cannot wear clothes iirc.

I'll have a look so the patches for it work.

I have the "unhappy nudity" message permanently on because of the lava slime who just joined. But "race can't wear clothes". So what am I supposed to do? Is it because he's an unnatural healer creepjoiner somehow?

Is there anyway to tell if an elixir silme is still restoring lost parts?

though glad you updated this to 1.6 slimes r cool

oh dangit, i cant join discord servers due to everything thinking im a bot and getting autologged out for 'spam'

@ThatlOnelGuy
My discord is better for bugs. I have a few too many mods to keep track of via comment sections.

@deadmanreaper13
Spooky. I'll have a look at the code.

got a bug with a Cream Slime - Chocolate production gene doesn't stop while dead. map spawned a desiccated one next to Monolith, dragged into storage and has been producing chocolate since.

idk what is causing it but i tried it again with a new world and it works fine there. might be messed up in my main world because i only gave them the size and ability midway through? sorry if you have a better place to report bugs.

@RedMattis
sorry i should have said i have tried on different people and no matter what they have they just escape immediately even if i am using a massive character. used dev mode to give a character the gene that grows them as they age and set their age to the highest for the size buffs and still couldn't hold anything. they had the tough trait and a couple other genes to boost damage reduction

@μuKnew
Yes, any Fire/Heat gear protects against it.

Posted a discussion thread with some feedback. Also, what gear protects from acid? Is it under fire/heat damage resistance?

@ThatOneIGuy
They will attack the stomach and sometimes torso with any melee weapons or attacks, with high melee skill pawns being especially effective.

Swallowing anything with high melee abilities is a bad idea, and even against foes with ranged weapons it is often better to use it to take someone out of the fight (damage rate in both directions is low).

Robust/Tough or just being big helps though (e.g. slime build-up). Slimes (and snakes) also have a little bit more stomach hp in general.

Finally Bionic/Nuclear stomach or anything improving digestive abilities increases the damage dealt a fair bit.

I've been trying to use the engulf ability on some people but they always almost instantly get out. Is there something I can do to prevent that? Is there a setting I could turn off to prevent people from fighting out?

@Mismagius
Ludeon previously had a bug in the gene resource target which I compensated for in the framework. Since Ludeon fixed that bug in the 1.6 release my code ended up overcompensating.

I believe it should be fixed now though.

i'm having an issue where the amount of slime you select goes off the GUI causing my slime to constantly want to eat and this happens every time i reload the save

ive downloaded the 1.6, and oddesy dlc, but now my slimes dont have the slime selector for how much reserve slime they posses, so now my colonists just eat my colony out of house and home, making it unsustainable to have a slime colony, im not sure whats going on,

@shidotoku
The Slime Core is basically a brain that has been relocated to the torso. Probably you're being a bit unlucky. It has a similar chance to being hit as a liver.

I could probably lower the odds for it to be hit though.

@Kovn
The Framework does support colonists with animal-like bodies such as that, but I've not actually set up any lil' sphere type slimes yet.

@tkgamer77
They should have a hunger rate of x125%, unless you have mods changing gene costs around. You don't need to keep them at a large size though, setting the target slime size to, like, 75% or something will make them eat a lot less.

@Chimbo
I'll look over the acid damage later, or maybe just raise the pawn cost of the slime raiders.

I would suggest trying to use fire against the slimes if they are proving troublesome. Half of them fear fire, and almost all of them are extremely vulnerable to any sort of fire damage.

I've made a custom slime xenotype with genes from this mod, but it keeps getting randomly one-shot to the slime core in melee, armor or no armor. Just now an arctic coyote insta-gibbed my 20 melee slime colonist on the first hit. Am I doing something wrong or missing something, or is this an intended drawback to slime colonists?

That Time I got Reincarnated as a
Nevermind

anyone know if there's a way to make the slimes look like an OG slime (like the lil sphere)?? I'd love to be able to have a slime blob form and a slime humanoid form, just not sure how to go about it or if possible...

Loving this mod, I just wish my toxic slime colony wasn't so voracious. It's everything they can do just to eat and sleep, lol.

Is there any way you could add a config file that lets us tone down the severity of acid? I'm so tired of the myriad of acid-based xenotypes in your mods (which I am otherwise very happy with) being by far the most dangerous enemy on the map at any given time. Even a centipede cannot flip a coin to instantly kill a colonist the moment they enter sight range, yet anything with acid leap or spit essentially guarantees death or dismemberment in an enclosed space, no matter how pathetic the enemy pawn might be otherwise.

I suppose this would be better placed on the main Big & Small file but this popped up first, so whatever. Thanks.

The slimes randomly shrinking down (yes turns out it was a Ludeon bug) should be fixed now.

Verify files, or resubscribe to the B&S Framework.

@GalacticSeal
Ludeon messed up their UI Resource Bar settings when they released 1.5 and they do some really hacked workarounds that can result in it getting set to weird values when being set up.

I think I got it reliably avoiding that reset-issue in the latest few versions, so you could try verifying files if you still get the issue and see if that helps.

If not it might be a mod interaction. Or I've just not managed to reproduce the issue.

Seems to have an issue where the settings for slime level on your pawns keeps randomly being reset to a random value whenever you reload the game; gets pretty annoying trying to scale back up the slime pawn because they randomly decided to become small again on their own (also seems to have an issue where the slime level doesn't properly update the character size). Other than that issue, great mod!

ima give up on rimworld mods are broken and people are mean (not you redmattis just someone else that was abhorrent to me because their mod was broken)

still kinda broken, i can get it to work for a single pawn by deleting the size hedif but it causes the pawn to jitter like hecc

ima try to use slimes with HAR's again

Awesome thanks. I was just going to try this. Think I'll pair it with the ultra fast aging gene from the xenos as well.

@Ghevd
There is a "Early Maturity" gene in the mod which you could add to a xenotype if you're doing a custom start. It should make the baby stuff faster.

I do believe I patched the Very Early Maturity to work with the slimes' proliferation ability as well.

I am trying to play a tribal run with slimes only. I opted out of bringing an elixir slime with me in favor of a second pink slime. It is fun trying to mix and match them to see what gene combos I can make. One slime is even having a baby with an animakin. Can't wait to see how that turns out.

Kids take too long to raise though even with the rapid aging. Gonna have to play this one in intervals.

Thanks for the races though! Love em. My favorites are the slimes and the mimic.

Vanilla Psycasts Expanded helped me with my permanent gunshot wound to the brain. Turns out regrow limbs also restores brains. That's right ladies and gentlemen... my warg is gonna be okay! Unfortunately it didn't work on a shattered nose though so may have to try to kidnap that elixir slime to add to my ranks after all.

@Syilumi lunari
They should be able to change size. I certainly wouldn't disable it with HAR.

If it is only an issue with HAR then if might be some of Erdelf's patches are interfering, I guess.

@Ghevd
Not being able to heal brain damage was mostly to avoid making them utterly op.

They are deliberately designed to be kind of awful aside of their incredible healing due to its potency, but gene-modding can fix most of their issues.

@Syilumi lunari I don't believe that's intended. I assume it is a mod conflict. My slimes change size both visibly and in the health tab.

Don't mind me, I'll just be here sulking in the corner because elixir slimes can't heal brain damage and my plan to raid every slime village until I'm able to kidnap one is for not!

Stupid elixir slimes... can't wear anything, can't wield anything, and they don't even taste good... *kicks rock*.

ima guess its intended

@Aphasia
Thanks. Issue replicated. Will fix asap.

shambler slimes cause error spam, could anyone replicate this? If not—I'll try to find the source

the slimes still dont change sizes at all when HARs is installed is this intended?
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3407604377
picture for yes

hey found a problem. if a slime spawns as a stranger with the body mastery trait, they can't get bigger in anyway outside dev mode because their hunger bar is missing.

@RealLifeHobgoblin
The "Slime Bar" slider lets you set how big they should aim to be.

@KungWoo, Mismagius
Try grabbing latest by doing a "Verify integrity of game files". The paths have changed and mismatches can cause that issue. There was indeed an issue with the slime/glutton body paths pointing at the wrong thing before (wrong letter capitalization iirc.)

My slimes have bottomless stomachs. How do I put them on a diet? I don't need them so big TnT

@mismagius, I am also having this issue as well as the Glutton body type from "Big and Small - Heaven & Hell"

oh and also, one of your updates seem to have broken the slime textures and they are appearing as a red box with an X now: https://ibb.co/m9qmmn8
the error mentions something about being unable to find the head textures