aye, me too. I am trying to get into planetfall again, but in vanilla the AI is no real threat I remember. playing with the adventure mod, and truth to be told, I am somewhat struggling with the game - somewhat due to LOS and how easily units seem to die, but mostly due to the UI/visuals/music (no overworld music, lack of speed options on the overworld or during a battle to make all unit movement uniform, repeated attacks causing issues with overlapping text which is a bit too big as well imo) but hopefully will be able to learn my way around it/have the devs take the knowledge from AOW4 and apply it to a future planetfall game, because mechanics like unit mods or a low amount of districts that matter a LOT for the sake of economy/military are really darn fascinating to me. and hopefully it makes the AI easier to work with compared to the insanity of mid/late game AOW 4 builds xD

@megabot - Glad your liking it, haha yeah I still dabble in some changes time to time, however not sure if there is anything left to do.

I agree, really hope we see another game like this, and maybe after AOW 4 will see its planetfall version in the future.

huh. I saw the description stating "the mod gets updated regularily" and I was like "nah, probably forgotten to take that out" then I look at the update date and you ain't lying, still active. glad to see that, considering it appears most other moders have left already. hopefully we get a game akin to this at some point in the future, I enjoy AOW 4, but the way racial transformations and unit enchantments work makes that game play way better if you just stack infinite enchantments and transformations to then spam tier 1/tier 2 units (especially with mighty meek as an option)

@Irulan - Hey, I wanted to make one for AOW3 but I haven’t played it much again since 4, so no AOW3 version sorry.

There may already be similar searching AI, and not too hard to make.

Is there a similar mod for Age of Wonders III?

@Myth - Awesome to hear, hope it makes it abit more fun, it did for me and my group. All the best (:

Big fan of AoW4, decided to try Planetfall and give your mod a shot. I'll let you know how it goes!

Thanks for the reply. I'll give it a shot.

@Terrapin - It will still make some changes for a better experience in my opinion, as normal still gets some changes along with the other changes.

But give it a try if you like, if you’re playing normal and finding it fair then you may not need what’s in the description. All difficulties got some changes among the other listed changes (:

Do I need this mod if I'm just playing on normal? It seems most of the players that are using this mod are playing on extreme. Does the AI get enough of a boost on normal to make this mod necessary?

@TtBennl, Hypnosis - Glad your both still finding some value in the mod (:

@Aten, thanks for keeping this mod alive!

Thanks for the update. I still use this mod.

@Generic Brand - Updated, welcome to Dm for any other changes you notice, thanks again.

@Generic Brand - Hey thanks, anytime I love keeping them updated for the few of us left haha.

Oh my bad! I’ll update it again tomorrow, last update I was meant to change that back, I am still digging into the modding and was testing that to see if they pop more, but finding the right setting for forward bases still eludes me. Thanks for pointing that out, I’ll get that fixed tomorrow and push the update to fix that.

How are you finding the extreme difficulty? Should still be manageable?

There are changes that I am still tidying up , but I have a friend that helps in testing so it’s slow, I also have a note book of files to still check for some adjustments I’m looking for in the game. But most of my time goes to the AOW4 version.

It's cool to see the mod still getting updates!

I've played a few games now on the Extreme AI difficulty and I think the cost reduction to making Forward Bases (from 20 to 5) makes them too abusable by the player, even when not intending to.

I assume this was to make the AI create more of them but they don't seem to make any more than from when the cost was 20.

@Rubyeye - Thankyou! Glad your finding it helpful for your playstyle.

Your latest update to this mod coincided with my completion of the base game’s campaigns and DLCs. Now that I was ready to dive into ‘Empire Mode’, I wanted to see what kinds of mods this community built for Plantetfall . This mod is exactly what I was looking for, and it has been working beautifully throughout my Empire conquests. It’s made setting the AI difficulty to “extreme”… managable. Their playstyles really complement their personalities, especially in diplomacy. I also love how in the Advanced Options tab it literally shows the FairPlay AI mod is active, so I know it’s working.

I haven’t noticed anything unusual like bugs, crashes or glitches so it seems stable for my experience. Anyway, just wanted to say thank you for making this great mod and for continually updating it – even into 2023!

Ah thanks for the info. I did actually go ahead and check if that was the case. Started a new game at around 280% difficulty hardcore with void world and even went as far as to purchase colonizers with empire rewards for a super quick colony expansion spam. I had 3 colonies when I expanded vision and saw one of the Xenoplague/Syndicate AI had 6 colonies with roughly the same food growth as my own that I had rushed at round 18. Still finding it hard to stay even with them but your mod is definitely working well. Will play around with it some more to see what may be happening. Thank you for the consideration

@Mordred - Oh I see, hmm if you load this mod last Adventure Mod doesn’t provide any cheats that I know off. See how you go I play with Adventure Mod and haven’t see any blatant cheating from the AI.

Wooohoooooooo. Thanks for the update. My game just crashed and came to the workshop to do some modlist cleaning and saw that this was updated. Thank you very much now I don't have to wonder if it's functioning with the mods I have installed. I just want to say however for feedback that the adventure mod changes for difficulties that are outlined in the google doc are honestly overpowering and counter intuitive to this mod. It is still compatible but I don't know if it's possible to undo or smooth the additions that does because it's obvious once you bump the difficulty up to maximum that the npcs aren't outplaying you they're just getting an abundance of free resources. Made me sad to see, going to play now and see how this turns out.

@Anyone - Any issues, unsub/resub to redownload or verify the game for the latest version, multiple updates have come out (:

Thanks for your job. I will write my feedback once I test it out.

I'll check 'em out. I like to slowly tack on mods as I develop an understanding of the core experience and intended values of things and then go from there. Any good mods for hero/army unit customization?

@Tex - Awesome to hear! I’ll keep tweaking it, I also play with the DLC in Campaigns Mod and Adventure Mod and have had a blast with all three.

Glad you like it (:

Rather than attempt to integrate the mod into a save, I finished that game and started a new one with your mod active, and immediately noticed a huge difference. I vehemently dislike playing against AI that get massive bonuses or cheat in other ways. It doesn't make the game feel more challenging in a rewarding way, as it just forces the player to game the AI in more peripheral ways that don't necessarily translate to general skill. With their massive bonuses gone, the capability score ranks are showing MUCH better numbers.

I'm greatly enjoying the mod thus far. Thank you. I hope you continue to provide support for it if the devs decide to patch the game.

@Trinity - it makes the AI feel more fair, yet they still have more vision then you and generally may feel weaker in some situations, give it a try and see how you go, after the next big patch I’ll dive in and see how you go

In your opinion, does it make the AI feel more natural or does it still feel like they are artificially better than you?

@Magic - The difference since all bonuses for the AI have been removed across all difficulties only leaves some behaviours and priorities difference.

For example, in higher difficulties, the AI is more inclined to try and build a certain number of colonies ahead of the player.

Try it out and see how you like it, the Wiki page for Planetfall has a breakdown of all bonuses for each difficulty, all have been removed and some priorities changed that aren't listed. AI plays on equal terms as the player now, however, this doesn't mean they'll play better.

So what exactly does it do balance-wise for each difficulty?

@Hey Tex, I can’t guarantee save game compatibility, I would save a extra copy of the match and give it a try to see.

Hey, Atenvardo. Would this mod work on a save file to a game in progress, or do I need to start over?

@LazyBard - I assume it would be, I haven’t tested it myself in a multiplayer game.

Well, multiplayer compatibility?

No more error message? Hmm might have to try it and see

So, can I use it in multiplayer? Also the error message is gone

I have all the DLCs installed, my brother has the same issue, he also has all DLCs

@LazyBard - I haven’t had that issue, but I will have a look tomorrow.

I work shiftwork is all, but I’ll see what I can do.

It sounds like either a DLC isn’t installed or is missing on your end, as this mod requires all DLC expansions at the moment.

It is said in game menu: missing mod dependencies DLC01, unable to use mod
What can it be?

Can I use it in multiplayer?