@BLITZKRIEG ask the PLA mod author

How to reload ammo into the vehicles using CE?

It's okay, thank you for responding and letting me know though. Good luck with whatever you have going on

@Smiley Face Killer i have a lot on my plate atm, i honestly dont think ill get round to it. Sorry. If someone wants to update the patch, go ahead.

@Tec
Sorry to ask, but do you plan on updating this (not asking you to rush at all)?
I'm waiting to try out PLA until I can use WTH with it, but if you don't plan on it then I'll just deactivate WTH

yeah same issue for me

@Tec Now I’m a little confused lol. Both what the hack and torrent work just find for 1.4, however the patch for what the hack no longer works. I’m sure you already know that,. When I loaded this mod in with the rest into rimpy it showed a warning message. Game started just fine, loaded into the world just fine and I went from not being able to draft the vehicles due to it saying “no fuel” even though they were full to being able to draft them, however I couldn’t order them to move even when drafted with the patch loaded with everything else etc. I don’t know if it’s a version match issue or not

What The Hack has probably updated then. I dont believe steel torrent has

@tec I have today, tried it, it allows you to draft the vehicles but you can’t move them at all, disabled what the hack and reverted and everything was normal again

has anyone actually tried it with 1.4? i dont play with What the Hack, so someone else needs to try it. If it doesnt, ill have a look at it.

Need to update to 1.4 please

1.4>?

can you update to 1.4

the best you can do for now, is disable the walk and allJobs animations

@Novachrome i wish i could :( sadly that has to come from Yayo. I think ive asked in the past. Perhaps if you ask again nicely as a reminder, the author may be see it and add a patch.

any chance you could make a patch for yayo's animations. the vehicles have the same animations as the pawns, so they wobble around and it looks strange

@XoleyZum i highly doubt it, they are basically the same as having animals. But i would direct this to the original mod.

Hi, I love steel torrent, but by seeing dubs performance analyzer it looks to me that the vehicles are quite performance hungry, idk if that's true, but it appears to be like that with my very limited knowledge of how games work.

Issue fixed. Forgot to add mechanoid foundry to the list which will enable the patch, (didn’t intent for the patch to be run without WTH initially)

@Huntmaster are you sure it was removing mechanoid foundry and not something else you did? Mechanoid foundry decides to patch things based on the same reasoning What the Hack does. hwihc i changed. Theres a chance there is something Mechanoid Foundry isnt compatible with that is causing the issue, if you have HugsLib, you can press the green button to upload and post a link to your log. Load up your save and try to use the vehicles and then go to error log and upload using the green button and post it in the Bug Reports/Error Logs discussion thread

@Tec I do have quite a few of those, I have 361 mods so if you know a way to provide a list for you that would be great. I just went through and disabled mods to figure out what was causing it. I even fixed my mod order (t-34 mod was in the wrong spot) but the only thing that fixed it was removing mechanoid foundry.

ive also found draft issues when you have mod conflicts or mod load order issues. Sometimes not even related to the mod. I can confirm this patch is currently working with the selected mods, if you are having issues its because of another mod.

@Huntmaster do you have any other mods that effects pawns/animals/mechanoids?

@Tec Current load order is Steel Torrent, T-34 addon, this patch, Mechanoid Foundry and I can confirm the bug of not drafting the vehicles (at least the Lynx) is still there.

wait, that might be because i set it to 1000% that it was instant, ill make the change anyway

hold on, if you get your pawns to "repair" the vehicle, it also repairs diseases, including plague. Just tried it. And they do it instantly, as there is no way current to stop them catching sicknesses, no real point adding immunity speed, as you have to "tend wounds" for immunity to start going up, but after the first repair it is removed

went testing this on alienraces androids/droids and it seems they have the same issue, but their immunity speed is just 1000%

@Mechinode best thing you can do is ask that mod creator to increase the immunity for the tanks so any infections they get will go away quickly.

@Mechinode unfortunately i did not program them, you should report this to the actual mod author, this is just a patch for What the Hack, and a couple other fixes

@Tec Hey boss did you know the tanks can catch animal flu with how you programmed them?

Well it's true and the hiccup is Pawns are stuck repairing them until the plague is cured

@Mismagius i know you already clarified that, i was clarifying what i meant. its why i just said to use the load order in the description as thats easy to understand.

i wasn't using WTH together with this mod, i was using Mechanoid Foundry on it's own. but ok i'll get a log next time i play the game.

if it still doesnt work after using the load order i stated in the description, then give me the whole log after loading a game and trying to get the vehicles to work, with that specific load order.

@Mismagius I said i was referring to Mechanoid Foundry, to load it after what the hack. Just follow the load order in description.

it doesn't work...i tired different load oders and i still can't draft the tanks: https://ibb.co/VJND4Rm . i'am so confused as to what your trying to say on what loader. can you be more specific? cause after is below and before is above. you say to load this patch after What the Hack?! and
Mechanoid Foundry, yet the desc says to load it before. i don't understand what you want me to do

ohhh, ok.

@Mismagius i was referring to Mechanoid Foundry, the load order in description is correct.

wait, you said load the patches "after" what the hack yet in the desc it shows to load it "before" the mod.

alright then, thanks.

@Mismagius the patch i made for WTH also works with Mechanoid Foundry, whether you have what the hack or not, was just letting you know where to palce it if you had it.

oh...i see what you did there. alright alright sorry...i thought you were confused as to what i said there but alright i get what you just did.

i wasn't using what the hack, i was asking if you could make a separate patch that can fix the issue with Mechanoid Foundry and PLA Vehicles being incompatible.

@Mismagius Just checked the patch in the mod Mechanoid Foundry and i think the change i made should also stop it from effecting PLA Vehicles, tried it and had no issues. Make sure to load after what the hack.

@Mismagius if i get the time ill have a look, noted though :)

hey you managed to fix this mod that breaks from WTH right? think you can try fixing the issue caused from mechanoid foundry? it causes tanks to be undraftable.

Loading what the hack before, makes the vehicles not move or response, as you described, "What the hack?!" MUST be last, or after all the PLA mods and patches.

@@g0ldheart_rr so just checking your modlist, the only thing i can see different to mine is i have Vanilla Framework Expanded right after ideology and before hugslib. Also you said you moved my patch to the end, however what the hack needs to load after all the PLA mods and patches. You moved that as well right? If that doesnt work, if you could make a thread and post images/videos of the issues and what exactly isnt working, i would like to figure it out.

@g0ldheart_rr so, this patch is designed with CE in mind. The balance patch will fail without CE, so thats normal. Though i could probably add something to check for CE. But that makes sense why only that file failed. Ill try and add this check for CE to see if that makes a difference. But i dont think it would.

@Tec I have always had the same error appear; initial install, after moving. There was never a point it did not appear. I don't use CE, is that required? I'm using Yayo's combat mods. The load order you listed is how it is currently.

@g0ldheart_rr did you get the same error or a different error after moving it? Also if it was broken before in the save, try loading an earlier save that didnt have the mod to see if it still persists, or in the current save, dev delete the vehicles, and respawn them to see if it still persists. If it does, then its most likely either load order or mod conflict. It should be Combat Extended -> PLA Steel Torrent -> PLA T-43 Addon -> PLA Steel Torrent Patches -> What the Hack?! in the load order.