pl_sunnycoast

its not working either

thanks

whats the map code?

whats the map code?

Better Snowycoast

I can't understand how this map is considered to play on UGC. This map is so hard to track older version or any other source other then here.

yeah it's whenever you're going back and forth rather quickly peeking the door it sometimes just closes on you

Yeah I think I kinda got the problem's origin for good. I found out there was a delay when the door close, so you could get stuck... I'll correct that. Thanks for the feedback.

Hate to say it man but in the latest version (on creators.tf which I'm pretty sure is the latest) that side door is still buggy as hell getting people stuck in it and just sometimes not letting people through, wasted Ubers doing that.

Alright dude, I'll have a look at that

I got myself stuck on the door that opens up when A is capped, on the far left in the 2nd screenshot. The logic or trigger positioning is broken.

Particles, snow props are more resource demanding than simple grass.

Why pros hates snow?

I'm really sorry, I totally forgot about this. I saw your message, but was busy and hyper focused on work for a few weeks.

Given that I really don't have time to do any work myself on a comp version of the map, I'm just gonna say it's fine if you want to go ahead and keep working on this. It'd be selfish of me to say "no, stop" and then not also do the work myself. Please do make sure you're basing yours off the VMF I released on tf2maps awhile back, as from the lighting in the screenshots I suspect you might not be, and it will already have groups, correct tool brushes, lighting, etc. You can find it here: https://tf2maps.net/downloads/payload-snowycoast-vmf.1524/

I'm still very disappointed that the comp community never attempted to reach out to me after years of wanting to work on competitive maps but since I personally have very little time to invest in TF2 map making these days, it is what it is.

All good. I hadn't seen you had responded to E-Arkham before I posted, so sorry about that.. as someone who modifies maps myself with the mirrored maps series I think it's super important to seek permission of community map makers before touching their work. It's good to see you're being sensible about it.

I'll shutup now.

Yes I am definitely considering taking down that page, but at the same time I wasn't the one to start the project. Some players came to me and expressed their interest for a different, "improved " Snowycoast for their competitive needs, so there are people interested in that.

Of course I'm not taking any ownership for this map beside the two or three changes I did, and EArkham is still the maker of that map. I have my own stuff on my side that is already taking 99% of my time. Now he did not expressly stated that he wants it taken down, which is something I would have certainly done if asked so. I have sent him a message tuesday on TF2Maps.net to talk about it and am yet to receive an answer, so in the meantime it's in stand-by.

Given E-Arkham's comments you should be embarrassed to have released this without permission and should consider removing it.

"DryCoast" ?

Oh, I wasn't aware that you were against that kind of stuff, and I respect your work so maybe we could talk about it ? I sent you a friend request for that.

As author of snowycoast, I specifically asked that nobody do this without coming to me first, as I wanted to be the one to make any comp version of my maps. It's frustrating that for years I approached the comp scene time and time again to make a comp map, and was ignored or turned away, and now see a comp version made without my involvement or permission.

However I'll be honest, I don't really feel like pursuing any takedown requests nor would I have the time to work on a competitive version if I did take this down, so I'll just state my disapproval here and move on.

oh ok

When you walk on snow particles are generated which reduces performance.

I wonder why comp people hate snow?

sunnycoast would be better

why don't you change map name to 'warmcoast'