should we be using this mod or the other one

how do you use this mod?

Do these get added to AI lords as well?

i really like this mod but there needs to be more negative ones that counteract the op positive ones. it would help balance out. it seems like there all good ones and kinda ruins the more lorefriendly RPG vibe of this mod.

How do I get the Saviour trait? Reinforcing other lords don't seem to work.

I like this mod. Obviously adding ranks to anything is going to add power, so I don't understand people complaining about this being too powerful. I think it's great and it adds to the fantasy and rpg aspects of Warhammer for me. My complaint with other Total War games in the past was always that traits and talents felt weak and insignificant. I want this type of stuff to matter and make a larger difference. Thanks and please keep up the good work Sir_Isenhart.

This mod is really cool, but it can be exploited too easily. You can end up saving so much money because the -5% upkeep can stack and are present in various traits.

@Sir_Isenhart [skaper] Is the procrastinate trait removed?

@STRONGSTEELRUS well the ai gets to use it too, so...

Imbalance traits you want to say

this helps since some traits out right only have that multiple ranks set up this will help make more them viable.

Just removed the discouraging effect from razing max rank on the S&F update. If I get some time to play I will see if they added anything trait-wise and will tinker with them.

After razing many cities a trait will give you an attack effect that demoralize the enemy, but this will replace Archaon's initial effect in SFO. Could you make them exist at the same time..？

@Trumteddy I have a lot of changes in mind including what you suggest but it will probably happen with the TWW3 version of the mod.

sometimes i have the feeling that the traits are gained to fast and easy, maybe make it a little bit harder to get them, especialy if the trait is allready in higher rank. having a lvl 12 lord with maxed traits is a bit to fast, still love the extended feature, just think its to easy and fast. Maybe if more ppl think the same way, ou could tweak it a bit

I'd recommend to remove 'discourage' from razing 4 - it overwrites other precious buffs and it's kinda boring to have everyone with discourage at some point. Leadership debuffs by your extension (sacking + razing) are already pretty strong.

And a lot of lords/item have the effect for a reason ^^ or units....

still a cool addition to the otherwise boring traits.

Thanks!

Yes, this affects the AI as well. They need all the help they can get.

does this effect enemy as well? the steamroll is sometimes bad enough already i dont want them going around with ultra traits as well :D

I'll take a look at some other mods that add traits and see if there is a way to make them green when I have some time.

Never even noticed that, anyway I have no idea how to change it or if it that is even possible.
Not a huge problem is it?

Becuase Yellow >green of course :)

why is the added upgrade of the trait (for example the battlemaster) is color yellow. shoudnt it be greener or at least green also.

yes it does work with SFO i tried it myself

Does this work with SFO?

敌方英雄成功率过高导致领主新增的负面属性太多太可怕了（加了这个模组）

Okay. Thanks for letting me know! Great mod btw :DDD

@Garbage Man I can't add new ranks to the Bretonnia-only traits as the chivalry gains are hard coded. Thankfully Bretonnian Lords and Heroes still get most of the common traits.

Does this work with Bretonnia? I got the "Authoritarian" trait but it had only 1 level...

There are a lot of things to balance in this mod and unfortunately I can't please everyone. I agree that the first rank of most traits comes too fast sometimes and that terror on all heroes is a bit op.
I'll see if I can get some time and work on a balancing update. Too busy with work nowadays.

i find that you get the better traits to fast sometimes. i just do a movement or ation once and i already have the trait, it would be better to be somehow a little faster than vanilla but not that much faster, it feels way to easy to get some of theese awsome skills/ traits

I'm not sure if you'd change this with how long it's been this way but I think you should reconsider having the wound and assasinate traits give terror. Terror, in my opinion, should be reserved for special units or gotten through special means, basically they should be uncommon. But with the wound or assasinate trait you can have it on literally all your hero's by just having them wound an enemy 2 or 3 times, it seems very unbalanced and devalues how most units have to work to get it like through a skill, banner, or by being a giant horrifying monster.

Great mod! reminds me of traits from TW Rome. Was super OP but was fixed.

The max is, like, 40. With the exception of a Lord who fights a ton of different LL's, it's legitimately hard to hit the cap. Especially if you use the Trait Manager that lets you get rid of traits you don't want.

Okay, thanks for the information. Have modders figured out how to increase the max number a traits a characters can have yet or is it unchangeable except by CA?

@tmehmel5 There isn't a trait connected to that skill.

I have noticed that I don't receive any trait from performing "steal influence" with my nobles. Is this intentional or a bug?

Probably. Steam shows as updated and it also works in game (checked with Cpecific's Trait Manager, the upgraded traits are showing and being applied as normal).

For some reason it wasn't showing as updated until now. Maybe because I changed install directory recently and it messed things up.

I think you'll have to reupload for steam to recognize that it's actually been updated?

update plz

Yeah, I run it with SFO without problems. In some ways the base mod is not 100% balanced (some race-specific hero traits are awesome), but it's definitely more fun than vanilla.

Is this in balance with SFO, and can they work together

Hi @Sir_Isenhart thanks for all of your work for the community on your great mods!
I am working on a text list of Traits and Their triggers for the campaign and I was just wondering if you might already have copies of the relevant tables that you could share, like the "trait_to_antitrait" table? and also do you know which table the trait triggers are on?

@yog I'm not sure why you are crashing but I am in a vortex campagin skavens with 62 mods including this one at turn 90 and haven't hd any crashes. And I kind of just grabbed a ton at once. Use karidens mod manager if you aren't using it already.

or only use your mod and it still crash after 50+ turns

sorry to ask i us this mod with (Mixu's unlocker support ) landmark of old and cpecific's traits manager with vampire counts and skaven and it crash after 86 turns what should i do?

@DutchmanX It is possible but it would have to be a separate mod.

any way of adding increase to army cap on some of the tomb kings stuff

@Teneombre No effect on these things whatsoever.