Only nerds would say such things

I agree with Snapp3r when you're playing with people you know. When on a random pub that's mostly new players, it's best for good players to encourage the strategy with the highest probability of winning. With new players, that means the strategy that offers the best ability to compensate for poor players, which happens to be something close to the meta.

This guy was on the server with me and 4 people with <5 tours. We lost A almost every wave and repeated 2-3 waves.

I'm anti-meta. And anti-anti-meta. Being anti-meta is just as bad as being pro-meta. Play for the team skill/experience makeup and objective of everyone on the server.

More than one way to skin a cat. This is my biggest turn off to mvm and why I quit. Everyone is so critical of other players, always trying to put people down cause they didnt do something according to the almighty mvm upgrade meta. It's a game, get over it (and yourselves) and have fun.

Proof tourcount doesn't guarentee they're not completely stupid.