Realism doesn't matter. Killing dozens of cops was already blatantly unrealistic. It's about immersion. The game had dignity when it was four hardened robbers with heavy jackets and heavier weapons using their skills and suitable fire arms to fight against police. Now, annoyingly voice acted jokes and their horridly immersion breaking DLC are rampant. Walking, irrelevant advertisement John Wank beats many cops to death with the American flag. Fat pig Bonnie roasts cops alive as they're too stupid not to walk into fire. 80's mom jeans-wearing tape-recorder speaking cross promotion gimmick Jacket takes on the police force with a tribesman's bow. It's ridiculous. They've deviated from the robbery genre so hard just to sell some gimmicky hype DLCs. If anyone wants a genuine experience when playing this game, it's impossible with pubs. Hox, Hous, Dallas, Wolf, and Chains not using any DLC weapons from the WWII pack or after.

Well, first of all you shouldn't mix up a realistic, serious background with the gameplay. Both things are inherently different. You can have a game with Orcs and Elves, and your stamina drains fast, you can't heal except of over time, and if you happen to fight three enemies at once you are pretty much screwed. There you have visual unrealism paired with gameplay realism. And the opposite is PD2. It LOOKS realistic, but PLAYS unrealistic. And I would like to keep the realism of the looks. When it got released there were no such "crazy" items in the game.

And PD2 is not casual, because as soon as you can play a game hardcore, it is pretty much a hardcore game, and that's what you can do in PD2. The skill ceiling is incredibly high.

So yeah, I care about aesthetics, and you can implement fun elements without completely fucking the visiaul style of a game.

Man I don't get the hate. Sure, Payday 1 was a serious game...but Payday 2 has never really claimed to be this. From the start, it was Genocide Cop Killer Simulator. So they add a bunch of wacky DLC. Does nothing but make the game a bit more wacky and silly fun for a casual shooter. If you ever though Payday 2 was anything but a wacky casual shooter... you really misunderstand your games. I might not have liked the publicity stunt with the John Wick thing, but that would be my only real complaint.

RIP PAYDAY 2's diginity. Started falling with John Wick and just hit rock bottom.

Lol, so much crappy dlc on the bottom of my wishlist for a 75%-90% sale, dun dun dun. I've yet to pay full price for one of their dlcs xD

Wait, there's a f**king bow?

Amen to that.
Who wants to focus on heisting anymore?
Lets just roast cops and shoot Indians with our bows!

Coming next summer:
-Bayonets for flamethrowers, RPG's, saws and miniguns
-Airstrikes
-4 new masks

$4.99

thats perfect... 10/10

now if only RPGs were effective against armored vehicles