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Fiktional 2013 年 11 月 11 日 上午 5:41
What Should I Do? / Where do I start?
I know this has been and is probably the most common thread at this point, but I really just don't even know where to start. I'm 19 years old and I know little to nothing about the thing I've always wanted to do. Ever since my first Game Boy and Pokemon Blue, I've always loved video games. Truth be told that's probably pretty typical of a lot of people. For a long time I've wanted to be a-part of video games in someway, but growing up I feel like I never had the opportunity nor the "real" passion to actually learn how to make games. So now a year away from being 20 I'm at a community college taking semi-random classes trying to figure out what I want to do. So far the only ideas I've had are getting a CISCO certificate, finishing General Education, and a Dream of working with games. Anyways that's why I'm here, I want opinions and advice from people who have experience in this particular field.
I guess my first question would be, should I even try at this point? I know 19 is still pretty young, but I feel like my life and experiences don't quite lend itself to this area. They say it's never too late to try something but I just want to know if that's really the case.
If the answer to the first question is yes, I guess my next would be; what should I do? Right now my options are to spend the next year or two finishing my General Ed and getting a CISCO certificate, for whatever that's worth. Then try to get into a College for Game Design, or I could finish out this year and start looking for a College afterwards. Or, is going to a College even a good idea? I wasn't a great student in High School and I don't exactly come from the most of wealthiest of families. Considering my situation going to a good worth-while College could be "difficult". So I'm not quite sure what to do there.
Anyways let's say I made it to the College I'm not sure what I'd want to do. One part of games that always captured my heart were the stories, the mythos, the lands. I'd love to conceptualize and write for games you know going over the dialogue, creating back stories, worlds, and all the little nuances that make a story great. However there are so many people with so many great ideas that maybe that's not even possible. Perhaps modeling or graphic design? I'm probably at best a mediocre artist but then again I never took the time to "really" practice so I don't know how good I could become. I've never done it before but I could also learn to code and maybe I could be great at it. I just I don't know, would I have to know what I want to do before-hand?
Anyways my last question would probably be is it worth it to work in the game industry? All I've ever heard is it's a difficult industry to break into. What's the job market actually like? Would I spend years looking for a job? Would I have to start my own indie company? These are the questions that run through my mind. I know it's my dream to be a part of creating games, but it's unnerving for me to lock my life into a College for 2 - 4 years. Then to imagine that after wasting all that time and money, that I might not even be able to provide for myself utterly terrifies me. You know what I mean?

I guess that's it. I know it might be foolish to base life decisions on a forum thread but if the people respond that actually know a thing or two it could be a good thing. Above all if you took the time to read this freakishly large post I thank you and even more so if you replied. Sorry for any typos, and once again I really appreciate anyone who takes the time to give me any advice.
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Lo-Phi 2013 年 11 月 12 日 上午 9:04 
Hey Skaythe,

Sounds like you're coming from a very similar situation as me. I'm 20, and 1 or 2 years ago I decided that video games are the path I want to be headed down. And I didn't know where to start, what to go to school for, or if it was even going to be possible for me to do what I want to do.

And unfortunately I don't have a lot of answers for you. But there is one thing I want to bring up, and that's motivation. You sound like you have ambition. Don't lose sight of that. It's really valuable. Don't let your current situation prevent you from turning that ambition into something. I'm going to school for music composition. One day I hope to write music for video games. However, that's not really a career I see myself sticking with. I would much rather create my own games, or at least be a large part of the development of the game than just be the composer.

So I'm learning to program. I'm starting small, working on a platformer in Gamemaker Studio. I haven't gotten that far yet, and programming is quite difficult. I clearly don't know the math side of things well enough, so pretty soon I'm going to need to study up on that sort of thing. Fortunately I know a very good artist, and she has agreed to work with me on this project.

I'm saying this because you have to start somewhere. And my advice to you is that, wherever you start, it needs to be as soon as possible. It doesn't need to be at school. Just... Start. Get to work on something. If this is something you honestly want to do... Do it.

As far as going to school, I wouldn't worry too much about that. Perhaps you could find a team at school to help you work on things, but don't be surprised if everyone gets too involved with school to keep up productivity.

One thing I would say though is that you really shouldn't get a degree in anything that has video game or game in the title. I have heard nothing good about degrees like that. Instead I would get a degree in something like animation, writing, programming, or music. Those are the areas that are going to really teach you what you need to know for a specific role in making a video game that you will need to know well. I think that a degree like "video game design" wouldn't equip you with the classical training you need to know in order to truly do a job well. Plus there is the fact that degrees like that are sparse, and likely expensive.

Finally, as far as what your future holds... I wouldn't think too much about that either. Just know that you want your future to hold video games, and keep hold of that as you work towards achieving that goal every day. You can try contacting people on various websites to form a team (But be very careful about this. I have had countless teams that were only wastes of time as everyone quickly deteriorated from the team, leaving me alone with no one else to work with.), you can make connections in real life, or you can work on your own. But do something, and see where it takes you. If you wind up making a game, perhaps you will start your own company. Or maybe you will get a degree in something video game related, and join a company. Maybe something completely different from either of those options.

But the bottom line is that you need to do something today. Every day that you can. I know it's daunting. The knowledge that is needed to create a video game is sometimes horrifyingly expansive... Art, music, math, programming, level design, game design, storytelling, etc. And none of those concepts are shallow by any means. They can all be expanded into sub categories, such as theory and applications. But DO NOT let that stop you. It's not stopping me. And I'm getting stuff done. It's slow, and because of school I can't work every day.. But I still work. And things are happening. I've joined a weekly game design discussion, met some people who are working on games and pursuing degrees related to games. And I'm improving the game concept that I am working on because of it. I'm slowly coding the game out.. And something is getting done. That's the most important point. Something is happening and I'm staying motivated. You should try to get something going too. If you have more questions let me know. And good luck!

P.S.
There is a ton of information for all sorts of things game development related. There are programming forums, gaming development blogs, even sites dedicated to understanding and making video games. The information is all out there! It's just the time that it takes to take it all in that is so daunting.
Fiktional 2013 年 11 月 12 日 下午 9:46 
引用自 Po Po
Hey Skaythe,

Sounds like you're coming from a very similar situation as me. I'm 20, and 1 or 2 years ago I decided that video games are the path I want to be headed down. And I didn't know where to start, what to go to school for, or if it was even going to be possible for me to do what I want to do.

And unfortunately I don't have a lot of answers for you. But there is one thing I want to bring up, and that's motivation. You sound like you have ambition. Don't lose sight of that. It's really valuable. Don't let your current situation prevent you from turning that ambition into something. I'm going to school for music composition. One day I hope to write music for video games. However, that's not really a career I see myself sticking with. I would much rather create my own games, or at least be a large part of the development of the game than just be the composer.

So I'm learning to program. I'm starting small, working on a platformer in Gamemaker Studio. I haven't gotten that far yet, and programming is quite difficult. I clearly don't know the math side of things well enough, so pretty soon I'm going to need to study up on that sort of thing. Fortunately I know a very good artist, and she has agreed to work with me on this project.

I'm saying this because you have to start somewhere. And my advice to you is that, wherever you start, it needs to be as soon as possible. It doesn't need to be at school. Just... Start. Get to work on something. If this is something you honestly want to do... Do it.

As far as going to school, I wouldn't worry too much about that. Perhaps you could find a team at school to help you work on things, but don't be surprised if everyone gets too involved with school to keep up productivity.

One thing I would say though is that you really shouldn't get a degree in anything that has video game or game in the title. I have heard nothing good about degrees like that. Instead I would get a degree in something like animation, writing, programming, or music. Those are the areas that are going to really teach you what you need to know for a specific role in making a video game that you will need to know well. I think that a degree like "video game design" wouldn't equip you with the classical training you need to know in order to truly do a job well. Plus there is the fact that degrees like that are sparse, and likely expensive.

Finally, as far as what your future holds... I wouldn't think too much about that either. Just know that you want your future to hold video games, and keep hold of that as you work towards achieving that goal every day. You can try contacting people on various websites to form a team (But be very careful about this. I have had countless teams that were only wastes of time as everyone quickly deteriorated from the team, leaving me alone with no one else to work with.), you can make connections in real life, or you can work on your own. But do something, and see where it takes you. If you wind up making a game, perhaps you will start your own company. Or maybe you will get a degree in something video game related, and join a company. Maybe something completely different from either of those options.

But the bottom line is that you need to do something today. Every day that you can. I know it's daunting. The knowledge that is needed to create a video game is sometimes horrifyingly expansive... Art, music, math, programming, level design, game design, storytelling, etc. And none of those concepts are shallow by any means. They can all be expanded into sub categories, such as theory and applications. But DO NOT let that stop you. It's not stopping me. And I'm getting stuff done. It's slow, and because of school I can't work every day.. But I still work. And things are happening. I've joined a weekly game design discussion, met some people who are working on games and pursuing degrees related to games. And I'm improving the game concept that I am working on because of it. I'm slowly coding the game out.. And something is getting done. That's the most important point. Something is happening and I'm staying motivated. You should try to get something going too. If you have more questions let me know. And good luck!

P.S.
There is a ton of information for all sorts of things game development related. There are programming forums, gaming development blogs, even sites dedicated to understanding and making video games. The information is all out there! It's just the time that it takes to take it all in that is so daunting.

Thanks for the words of encouragement that actually helps me a lot. I guess I'll start trying to figure out as much as I possibly can. Gotta start somewhere. Hope your endeavors go well for you as well.
76561198117557876 2013 年 12 月 9 日 上午 9:24 
Hi, man if you're "old" then I'm your grandpa I'm 22. I am soon-to-be graduate of Audiovisual and multimedia communications from Colombia.

I'm in a situation very similar to yours, and although I am trained to write stories and I've learned about, narrative, character creation, art history, audiovisual language and film-making, I don't know how to code, and I would love to be something like "gameplay designer" or script writer, and even If I make a portfolio it won't show the skills for that....

I mean, I know how to make entertainment and audiovisual products, but I don't know some things in specific. I.E: I could look for a work as a designer, but I'm not an illustrator and my drawing skills aren't that good. As a writer but I have 4 short-film scripts, but I haven't been able to make the actual films because no time-money...
Vasenkov 2013 年 12 月 19 日 上午 11:01 
The Best start point is learning game engine, such as GameMaker Studio or Unity3D.
Avoid UDK or CryEngine SDK, cause it won't have effect on your skills.
Lo-Phi 2013 年 12 月 19 日 下午 2:28 
^^^

I agree with that statement. I'm learning Gamemaker Studio right now. :)
Vasenkov 2013 年 12 月 20 日 上午 2:06 
In case of any GMS questions - you can ask me :D
Lo-Phi 2013 年 12 月 20 日 下午 4:33 
Do you frequent the gamemaker forums by any chance?
Vasenkov 2013 年 12 月 21 日 上午 3:44 
Not much. Usually Help can help with anything :D
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