http://forums.seriouszone.com/showthread.php?t=62974

I'm returned guyz

Agree with R

V spamming is the key to win xdddddd

Ofc, make RL faster, you will start whining on more of rocket spammers than grenade spammers, it'll be just stupid idea imo

Rocket launcher must be change. Now, the RL is slow and very strong, the damage and the speed of the rocket must be change: -damage +speed
The minigun is too strong! - damage
- Grande launcher is too speed! It promote the spam.. -SPEED
- Sniper is too strong! -damage
in conclusion, I think just like TotalEnigma..

Rocket launcher must be change. Now, the RL is slow and very strong, the damage and the speed of the rocket must be change: -damage +speed
The minigun is too strong! - damage
-The minigun is too speed!
- Grande launcher is too speed! It promote the spam.. -SPEED
- Sniper is too strong! -damage
in conclusion, I think just like TotalEnigma..

For me one of the things that should fix is the ping. 90% of the players is Italian, why not do some server hosted to milan? Removing even a few Americans, since they are the least popular of the community. Play with a ping of 100 is not always easy ....

Sorry for my English ...

I said, 1on1 mode needs design and needs lot of work, we must create a mode, then CT must work aroud our idea. This is a work in a 2nd patch, at the moment we can play 1on1 closing the server.

@PaTyk : indeed there is no 1v1 mode, but DM is just based on luck, best idea would to create that 1v1 mode, which those propositions are based on tough.

weapons for Versus
knife- remove or fix backstab (not allways works when u backstab players)
single shotty- dmg from single shell from 10 to 8, max dmg from 70 to 56
double shotty- dmg from single shell from 10 to 8, max dmg from 140 to 112
tommygun- 600 rpm, pinpoint accuracy, dmg from 10 to 7
minigun - 1200 rpm dmg from 20 to 7
rockets - dmg from 150 to 100 direct hit , splash range reduce by 20-25%, speed up rockets by 25-30%
grenades- autofire while holding fire button removed instead allow grenades to charge nonstop until fire key is relesed
but not giving extra speed, splash from 1-60 to 1-80
sniper - dmg from 160 to 90 both zoom and not
laser- cant destroy other laser bullets just like in sam classic, can destroy grenades and rockets,
hitbox and size of laser bullets reduced by 50% make harder to hit opponent

wepons for non versus
both shotguns- increse fire rate by 2x reason is they are usless at end game with slow reload
rockets - speed up by 25-30%

Only propositive comments pls

In a 2nd patch we will discuss for these.

other stuff
- remove ammmo boxes from maps while unlimited ammo is set On in custom options
- fix netcode or get it from sam 3 bfe works quite well there
- turn on/off powerups respawn in custom options
- on/off 3rd person view allowed in custom game
- allow FOV to work with 3rd person like in sam 3
- make knife a first weapon to swich instead of chainsaw
- remove autoswich wepon when ammo goes to 0 instead player should hold wepon with 0 ammmo and manual swich

Adding a 1on1 mode requires lot of work and "testing" that we can't do now. We will do it in a 2nd patch.

Sure, but there isnt any 1on1 mode so any changes will apply for dm as well. So maby it is a good idea to implement a 1on1 game mode with those changes You mentioned above?

Remember that this is a 1on1 patch, dm doesn't cont too much. About damages, ranges, we will discuss in another patch (if this will be approved by CT).

Wow, I really like it. Very nice job. I have some propositions of my own:
1. If You increase the damage of the granades I suggest to decrease the splash radius and/or the fire rate so that spamming is less effective.
2. Reduce the range of the Chainsaw by 30% or so.
3. Decrease or at least give the option when hosting a server to descrease knife damage.
4. I know that the speed with the knife is a essential part of the game, but i think that the method used in SS3:BFE is much better. That is, there is a special key for running and You can not shoot when using it.
5. Well and I will permanently switch of backstabbing. The knife is too powerfull as it is, so many players without skill just run and cut whatever is in their way;) I think it should be changed.


Ok thats all for know:P I hope that You find some of the ideas usefull. Once again congratulations for the idea of the patch! Good job!

Seriously, I totaly don't care but i join this group to help you all. (Coop guy)

i agree with all these fixes, well done.

Nice idea, i agree ;d

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Nice fixes we've done guys :D
I really enjoy it

very good idea! Xd

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