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Ubiquitous 2012 年 9 月 27 日 上午 10:07 
Can help with:
HL Team Srtategies
All classes gameplay, but I main Demoman
PST Time zone. On most nights late. I have a server where we can train. Would love to help new people out and give them pointers.
I have over 2000 played, platinum level HL experience. Some 6s experience
Jorkin D. Peenorson 2012 年 6 月 14 日 下午 4:45 
All classes except soldier/heavy/sniper
over 2000 hours from console and computer combined
Pacific Standard Time
I have no life so I can play at near any time. Glad to help anyone with any class, but the three listed above are my least skilled. but still pretty decent.
I have a wierd server connection iordeal to where I can only connect to certain servers, but I can tell which ones I can connect to before crashing.
Worm Boy 2012 年 4 月 15 日 下午 2:14 
soldier
288 hours
pacific time
not dying as much and what to do on certain maps
Quickhakker 2012 年 4 月 12 日 上午 9:47 
what class solli pyro
playtime somwhere in the reagon of 500+
what time zone gmt
getting kills not dying
Bic 2012 年 4 月 10 日 下午 5:10 
what class do i want to learn? scout demoman
how much play time? 450+
what timezone i live in? eastcost
aiming, staying alive
Powerpak 2012 年 4 月 9 日 下午 5:33 
What Class do you want to learn? demoman, medic
How much playtime do you have? 1000+
What timezone do you live in? westcoast (6 - 10pm)
Particular Struggles? I would say im pretty good, i am looking to just go the little extra to get competitive.
Teaching: I could help, i would say that im best at demoman and medic, with soldier following up; but most all of my class skills are proficent
Tordek [Cruel Prop] 2012 年 4 月 9 日 下午 4:07 
* What do you want to learn? Not dying as much.
* How much experience/playtime do you have? 500+ hours
* What timezone? When are you generally available? 3-6AM GMT. My timezone's GMT-3
* Do you have any particular struggles? Dying often.
talentdepot 2012 年 3 月 22 日 下午 7:32 
Ahoy! Here's my rundown:

What Class do you want to learn? I'd like to be an effective Pyro major, and minor in Medic.
How much playtime do you have? 100 hours.
What timezone do you live in? Eastern.
Particular Struggles? Airblast, ambushing, switching weapons.
Time? Meh, Evenings are good.
stochastic heretic 2012 年 3 月 5 日 下午 8:51 
What class do you want to learn?: Demo
How much playtime do you have?: ~240 hours
What timezone do you live in?: West Coast Time (San Francisco)
Do you have any particular struggles?: Using stickies effectively
Time? Weekends; best is Saturday afternoon, from 2 pm to 4 pm
Generic Rage 2012 年 2 月 29 日 下午 6:48 
Student Form

What class do you want to learn?: Spy
How much playtime do you have?: ~180 hours
What timezone do you live in?: EST
Do you have any particulair struggles?: The basics, aka proper use of stealth/disguises, positioning, class "acting", and even after 180 hours I still get lost on maps.
Time? Most evenings, around 6
smiley 🏂 2012 年 2 月 8 日 上午 9:51 
Hi there,

Just collecting information about the groups progress and would be keen to hear any positive experiences from group memebers beit student or otherwise. Ideally on reddit but group comments is fine.

Thanks

Dan
Carl 2012 年 2 月 3 日 下午 4:06 
Why do you want to teach new people?: Would like to help get interest for competitive tf2
What classes do you teach?: All
How long have you been playing the game?: Since beta
I consider myself to be decent/good/very good in these classes: All except spy
Have you played "comp"?: Since 2008. ~20 seaons worth of experience
What timezone do you live in?: est
Time?: most evenings, before 9 or after 11
[MiT] Rolldy 2012 年 2 月 1 日 下午 7:51 
Teacher Form
why? I want to hone my skill by teaching others as well.
Classes? Pyro), demo, engie mainly. Other classes too
I played this game ever since last summer.
I played in several PUGs. It might not be as impressive as others but I will try
Time zone? Eastern time
Time? night time. Usually after 10. I can adjust it.
smiley 🏂 2012 年 1 月 29 日 上午 11:37 
atomic-penguin 2012 年 1 月 23 日 下午 8:16 
Rendered a nice replay from Friday with annotations, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qPfVcmKlp4
dogma 2012 年 1 月 17 日 下午 9:08 
STUDENT FORM
What class do you want to learn?: Demoman especially, Pyro and Sniper
How much playtime do you have?: Too ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Much
What timezone do you live in?: EST
Do you have any particulair struggles?: way too much overextending as demo and general sticky spam, pyro in general and as sniper i can't always click heads very good. tl;dr demo - basic tactics, pyro - mechanics, sniper - mechanics
dogma 2012 年 1 月 17 日 下午 8:04 
TEACHER FORM

Why do you want to teach new people?: teaching is a lot more fun than playing these days (nerf heavy delete heavy)
What classes do you teach?: Soldier, Sniper (to a point), Medic (to a point)
How long have you been playing the game?: couple years
I consider myself to be decent/good/very good in these classes: Soldier, Medic, Scout
Have you played "comp"?: bit of highlander tourneys (ugc, etf2l)
What timezone do you live in?: east coast america
reformatt 2012 年 1 月 15 日 下午 6:08 
STUDENT FORM
What class do you want to learn?: Spy, Pyro
How much playtime do you have?: ~100 hours
What timezone do you live in?: PST, UTC -8:00
Do you have any particulair struggles?: As a spy- Gunplay, and positioning
As a pyro: Airblasting and positioning
free shrugs 2012 年 1 月 15 日 上午 4:57 
STUDENT FORM

What class do you want to learn?: Scout, Soldier

How much playtime do you have?: Probably around 50 hours, majority of it spent on idling (didn't know about 7 drops per week ;_;)

What timezone do you live in?: GMT+8 (Singapore

Do you have any particular struggles?: Aim and/or Tracking, Weapon Heckling, Rocket Jumping, Teamfight positioning, Prediction.

If anybody wants to help me, please feel free to add :)
Cheers!
atomic-penguin 2012 年 1 月 4 日 下午 10:05 
Try the Factorio demo!! 2012 年 1 月 4 日 下午 9:16 
TEACHER FORM

1) Why do you want to teach new people?: I like teaching. In real life I teach physics, pre-calc, trumpet, counterpoint, poker... A while back I taught a friend how to play and he was holding his own in comp play within a few weeks of picking up the game.

2) What classes do you teach?: Anything but pyro and spy.

3) How long have you been playing the game?: Since release. ~1000 hours since Steam started logging hours. No idling at all.

4) I consider myself to be decent/good/very good in these classes: All except pyro and spy. I haven't been playing much lately and I was never that great, but generally I don't often find myself outmatched by people whose names I don't recognize...

5) Have you played "comp"?: A little TWL, pugs, lobbies, ringing in scrims, and I might be on a highlander team now... I played CS:S seriously for a long time but currently I'm not really willing to put the time in to be truly good at tf2.

6) What timezone do you live in?: EST
Wisdom Sage 2012 年 1 月 2 日 下午 3:52 
STUDENT FORM
What class do you want to learn?:scout,spy,soldier
How much playtime do you have?:all day
What timezone do you live in?:PST(pacific)
Do you have any particulair struggles?:not dieing as scout hah.
wyrdash 2012 年 1 月 2 日 下午 2:31 
STUDENT FORM
What class do you want to learn?: Medic, or Pyro
How much playtime do you have?: ~150 hrs
What timezone do you live in?: EST
Do you have any particulair struggles?: For medic, activating ubercharge at the right point. For pyro, not dieing
Lord_Sturm 2012 年 1 月 2 日 下午 2:29 
Teacher form
Why do you want to teach new people?: Help people improve(also reduce number of W+m1 pyros)
What classes do you teach?: pretty much everything really
How long have you been playing the game?: ~1000hours
I consider myself to be very good/good/decent at: im reasonable at everything but my best is probably spy scout soldier engie and medic
have you played comp? no
what timezone do you live in?: GMT
Edendour 2012 年 1 月 2 日 上午 9:57 
TEACHER FORM
Why do you want to teach new peoplle?: The way I see it every skilled player used to suck. So, the more peopel that are taught; the mroe skilled players tehre are; the long TF2 will survive; and the more fun everyone has.
What classes do you teach?: I teach Soldier primarily. I can also teach engy.
How long have you been playing the game?: I have been playing since maybe 2008: before they even came out with these new weapons. I almost have 400 hours logged :/.
I consider myself to be decent/good/very good in these classes: Very Good/Great Soldier, Decent Pyro, Good Engy, Good Heavy, Decent Demoman, Decent Sniper, Good Medic. I'm a more rounded player in that I'll play any class but I do have a heavy addiction to Soldier o,..,o.
Have you played "comp"?: A little, not anymore.
What timezone do you live in?: EST.
Additional notes: I overthink the game and its mechanics a lot so I have a good feel for team play, composition, and the such. Not afraid to use voice o,..,o.
HiveGaming.Net 2012 年 1 月 1 日 下午 11:28 
Look up SteamGroup "Mplayerpro" for a full list of servers that we need admins for.
HiveGaming.Net 2012 年 1 月 1 日 下午 11:25 
We have TF2 Servers you guys could use. We can even hook you up with admin. www.hivegaming.net . All Servers run on 100Mb Sec DarkFiber :) Hit me up on steam for more info.
tshirts 2012 年 1 月 1 日 下午 12:09 
TEACHER FORM
Why do you want to teach new people?: I like to help people. Cut down on those M1+W Pyros out there!
What classes do you teach?: Spy, Scout
How long have you been playing the game?: I have been playing the game since early July 2011 and at the moment i have around 400 hours of TF2 playtime. I'm worse then i should be with so many hours logged.
I consider myself to be decent/good/very good in these classes: Decent Spy, Scout, Solly
Have you played "comp"?: I have never played comp, it feels like i'm way too bad for that. But honestly i don't know.
What timezone do you live in?: GMT+1

STUDENT FORM
What class do you want to learn?: Demoman, Medic, Scout
How much playtime do you have?: Teacher Form ^
What timezone do you live in?: GMT+1
Do you have any particulair struggles?: I just want to be a better team player in general.
atomic-penguin 2011 年 12 月 31 日 下午 7:04 
tf2lessons Town Hall meeting thread on reddit, Instructors and students both welcome: http://www.reddit.com/r/TF2Lessons/comments/nxvtb/rtf2lessons_instructortownhall_planning_meeting/
smiley 🏂 2011 年 12 月 31 日 下午 12:59 
nice idea none-the-less :)
c0mmie 2011 年 12 月 31 日 上午 10:03 
scratch my last part... I've been dooing a lot of fiddling with sctreaming and my computer just doesnt have enough juice to do it : (
c0mmie 2011 年 12 月 30 日 下午 10:33 
SUGGESTION: I just came up with an idea... Streaming. As in I think it will be beneficial if one of the teachers streams their regular pub game once in a while and maybe even coment on what they are doing. Anyone can request a specific class to play. I will actually be doing this sometime tomorrow and will post here. It would be great if i get some permission to anounce it or i could just msg one of the group leaders if they are online.
carry me plz 2011 年 12 月 30 日 上午 10:45 
idea:
set the map to MGE and each arena be a workshop for a particular class, skill (endif - strafing), or gameplay mode (attack/defend point), and each arena have its own mumble channel.

after the basics are down and a student has a teacher they feel comfortable with, the pair can do lab work in a pub, lobby, or pug. maybe a pair of spies or a medic pocket combo because i played alot of medic early on and picked up alot of tips while pocketing better players than me.

i cannot endorse the idea of starting students off with a 6s curriculum because it will inevitably be a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ due to the lack of experience from students and non-comp teachers (past experience). this will also leave a bad taste for those new to 6s and we don't want that happening.

but i will say that i believe comp is the road to being a better player due to the dependency on skill over luck (random crits), calls/communications, and actually acheiving objective - capturing points and not a pub fragfest.
Mentality 2011 年 12 月 30 日 上午 10:14 
Why do you want to teach new people?: Because I like helping new players get better, and enter the competitive scene if they wish.
What classes do you teach?: Soldier, Spy
How long have you been playing the game?: (not a requirement) Over 1k Hours, since early 2009.
I consider myself to be decent/good/very good in these classes: Very Good Soldier, Good Spy.
Have you played "comp"?: Yes
What timezone do you live in?: US Eastern.
Slime Burger 2011 年 12 月 30 日 上午 2:43 
What class do you want to learn?: Scout, Pyro, Medic (to help out the team when needed), Spy
How much playtime do you have?: 85 hours
What timezone do you live in?: Pacific
Do you have any particular struggles?: Staying alive, actually hitting the enemy with my shots, acting like the class I am disguised as
crespi 2011 年 12 月 30 日 上午 2:11 
Continued from below**
I just think this could be something really great if we all take it seriously and use the best options possible, for the best training and learning environment.

BOTTOM LINE: WHY MAKE IT HARDER ON YOURSELF TO GET BETTER?
crespi 2011 年 12 月 30 日 上午 2:10 
In the ~30 mins i was in the server today, i started suggesting we do a psuedo 6v6 rollout, because 12 people were in the server at that moment. I was mostly just trying to get things organized though.

However, I think everyone should consider the fact that this LESSONS group idea is basically the same exact mentor concept that already exists in comp tf2, and has existed, and is very successful. The only difference between mentoring in comp and this group is that in comp, mentors are people with experience that help teams AND individuals get better. So basically, I don't see why we can't model this after comp tf2, which is organized and successful and already has resources in place available for everyone to pick up on.

Sure, we can use in-game voice, but it's laggy, choppy, and if more than one person talks, nothing said comes out coherently.

Sure, we can just get people ready for "pub playing," but why not just go to any random pub server and spectate people & play there?
seppo 2011 年 12 月 29 日 下午 10:23 
Also, Mumble is a nice program and I have no problems with using it, but that kind of comes down to how involved new players want to get. The in game voice chat has its flaws, but I think it's usable enough for this. I'll leave this up to everyone else because I have no personal problems with using Mumble, but it kind of comes down to what lengths our "students" want to go to.
seppo 2011 年 12 月 29 日 下午 10:21 
I know the format got brought up a bit while we were playing (ie a few people talking about running 6v6) and my take on it is basically: It comes down to what level of people we're teaching, for one. I was under the impression these would be...quit new people who aren't even THAT familiar with the game, or those who know how it works but don't have much experience and need tips for the their classes at a more... beginner level.

As nice as 6v6 is, you really aren't going to be running into it unless you hit lobbies or beyond. I assume the people we're working with are looking more just to get good at pubs at the moment, and each class in the game has its own way you need to know how to deal with it and whatnot. Running 6v6 we're restricting half of the classes that people would have to be able to counter or even play as. I don't know if a game mode this rigidly defined is even necessary, but if so I think we'd be better off making it highlander.
free shrugs 2011 年 12 月 29 日 下午 9:42 
I'll join it!
WaywardGrizzly 2011 年 12 月 29 日 下午 9:40 
I can make a mumble server and anyone who wants to can join it?
WaywardGrizzly 2011 年 12 月 29 日 下午 9:39 
hey guys, just saying i aprove with anything atomic penguin says/does
atomic-penguin 2011 年 12 月 29 日 下午 7:45 
@Pietro Crespi, I agree on the lack of direction the first night. I wasn't expecting everything to run smoothly. Looking for feedback on what went wrong with respect to the server an its configuration on the first night. I had holiday family obligations and couldn't be around for long on the server to get feedback on what specifically was wrong. I second @Shadowknife392's motion of an IRC meetup (maybe Quakenet or Freenode).

Server takeaway from the first night:
* Appointed instructors need the ability to turn things like alltalk on/off, change maps, etc.
- Probably should turn off alltalk altogether.
* Geographic distribution made for high latency for at least a few participants. (Need co-located server(s), perhaps?)

@Pietro Crespi, can you elaborate on why we should use mumble? Is this a sound quality problem using the in-game voice chat? I noticed a few people had choppy voice transmission, will mumble solve this?
crespi 2011 年 12 月 29 日 下午 7:18 
oh yeah, i think MUMBLE SHOULD BE REQUIRED

HERE IS THE LINK.
http://mumble.sourceforge.net/

everything you need to get started on mumble is there
GODSGIFT 2011 年 12 月 29 日 下午 7:16 
Perhaps we could discuss this over IRC? Remember that this group was launched only 2 days ago... ;)
crespi 2011 年 12 月 29 日 下午 7:14 
this could be something good, but there is a SERIOUS lack of leadership here. If this is something designed to help people improve their game, especialli new players, then there needs to be a CLEAR and SIMPLE way to gather users, and LEADERS or captains to mentor and bring order to the sessions. I volunteered as a mentor, but I think this is in more need of someone/some people to be available to bring this together.

I have many ideas about what would make this work seamlessly and efficiciently, but there's gotta be some way where we can all "meet" and talk about this seriously.
GODSGIFT 2011 年 12 月 29 日 下午 6:07 
I can only help from the 20th of January onwards, due to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ low amounts of internetz
Thedavid38 2011 年 12 月 29 日 下午 5:54 
Is it going to be the Groups official server?
Default 2011 年 12 月 29 日 下午 4:30 
TEACHER FORM

Why do you want to teach new people?: Love to help people. And interested in meeting new people.
What classes do you teach?: spy,demo, medic,soldier
How long have you been playing the game?: (not a requirement) started in 2008, have about 500 hours logged now. Around 70 per week.
I consider myself to be decent/good/very good in these classes: I prefer spy, or medic. But can also play demo and soldier.
Have you played "comp"?: ~1yr - Lobby, ugc
What timezone do you live in?: GMT -10 (hawaii)