引用自 Thrynity：

引用自 Eternal_Suffering™：

No I mean Crafting's rework

Have found dis...
http://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=83380567
http://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=100100498
http://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=73279240

hmm all of them seem good aswell, lets leave crafting to decide

The Plague:
http://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=83380567
+On backstab: Backstabed player is "Infected" which makes the player die in 15 seconds
+When "Infected" player dies it applies same effects to allies in a close radius and "Infected" allies do the same being able to cause a chain reaction
-Backstabs only deal 1/4 of enemies health
-If hit with backstabbed player's melee you are "Infected" and causes the same effects

引用自 Thrynity：

引用自 Eternal_Suffering™：

Would this model fit better the infection rework?
http://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=112024925

I don't think it's suit a pandemic knife at all -_-

No I mean Crafting's rework

Would this model fit better the infection rework?
http://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=112024925

引用自 Thrynity：

引用自 Eternal_Suffering™：

Damm I went in depth!

Oh god ! Seriously ! This kill in a few second ! And become so **** strong because actual infect doesn't wound and instant kill, here you make free victim for anyone ! 1/8 is way too much
1/10 is really strong in mann powerup Soz...

Compared to stock its balanced, you can still get to a health pack or get a medic and self healing still would removed it

引用自 name so good：

Because my idea for a reworked Immobile Sentry was too exploitable, I've got this idea for a weapon that sort of combines it with the Tank Goodness:

The Wall | Heavy Primary, Minigun

(+) +100 max health on wearer
(+) On kill: nearby teammates get a batallion's backup effect for 3 seconds
(-) 25% increase in player size
(-) 20% increase in player head size
(-) 25% damage penalty
(-) 20% slower move speed when spun up
(?) 25% of damage dealt to teammates applies to you instead

Idk why you want to nerf or rework the Immobile Sentry, the whole weapon concept is good the problem is aplying the ideas and balancing it. How about just add a -15% movement speed on wearer on the immobile sentry and make it deploy/holster slower since I've seen people combine it with the Terminal Killocity and quickly deploying the Immobile Sentry negating the whole "Unable to jump" debuff the Immobile Sentry has and since it has the same properties as the stock minigun and by that I mean its deploy time and spin up time they can do it easily.

引用自 Eternal_Suffering™：

引用自 Crafting | cTF2w：

This is what I had planned.. due to the "Le Dettonaire" being similar to the Infection. This rework idea will involve removing the "Stab n away", including a little from Eternal's idea (but more simple).

(+) On backstab: place a disease
(+) Enemies are slowed by X% and their heath is drain X per second
(+) Instant cloak upon a backstab
(-) Disease can be removed by a healing supply, medic, health kit, or resupply
(-) Backstabs do no damage

Maybe it could be that there slowed down by 25% like in my idea and make the hp drain be 1/8 of their health so you can kill a heavy but not kill light clases in a matter of seconds

Here is the damage per second on every class to help you with the math:
Scout: 15 hp per second (Merc's Supplies: 18 hp per second)
Soldier: 25 hp per second (Battalions Backup: 27 hp per second)
Pyro: 22 hp per second
Demoman: 22 hp per second (Eyelander: 18 hp per second)
Heavy: 37 hp per second (Doom Bringer: 34 hp per second
Engineer: 15 hp per second (Gunslinger: 18 hp per second, Brain over Brawns: 22 hp per second and Gunslinger + Brain over Brawns: 25 hp per second)
Medic: 18 hp drain per second (Vita-Saw: 17 hp per second)
Sniper: 15 hp per second (Darwins Danger Shield: 18 hp per second)
Spy: 15 hp drain per second (Kunai: 9 hp per second)

Damm I went in depth!

引用自 Crafting | cTF2w：

引用自 Eternal_Suffering™：

AW - Infection (Rework):
+On backstab: Backstabed player is "Infected" and recieves bleed effect until they reach a health pack or a medic and recieves a -25% slower walk speed
+When "Infected" player dies it applies same effects to allies in a close radius and "Infected" allies do the same being able to cause a chain reaction
-Backstabs only deal 1/2 of enemies health
-Backstabed player recieves a +50% healing from all sources while bleeding

This is what I had planned.. due to the "Le Dettonaire" being similar to the Infection. This rework idea will involve removing the "Stab n away", including a little from Eternal's idea (but more simple).

(+) On backstab: place a disease
(+) Enemies are slowed by X% and their heath is drain X per second
(+) Instant cloak upon a backstab
(-) Disease can be removed by a healing supply, medic, health kit, or resupply
(-) Backstabs do no damage

Maybe it could be that there slowed down by 25% like in my idea and make the hp drain be 1/8 of their health so you can kill a heavy but not kill light clases in a matter of seconds

Here is the damage per second on every class to help you with the math:
Scout: 15 hp per second (Merc's Supplies: 18 hp per second)
Soldier: 25 hp per second (Battalions Backup: 27 hp per second)
Pyro: 22 hp per second
Demoman: 22 hp per second (Eyelander: 18 hp per second)
Heavy: 37 hp per second (Doom Bringer: 34 hp per second
Engineer: 15 hp per second (Gunslinger: 18 hp per second, Brain over Brawns: 22 hp per second and Gunslinger + Brain over Brawns: 25 hp per second)
Medic: 18 hp drain per second (Vita-Saw: 17 hp per second)
Sniper: 15 hp per second (Darwins Danger Shield: 18 hp per second)
Spy: 15 hp drain per second (Kunai: 9 hp per second)

Metal Shield: Add "-50% metal reserve" and "Replaces sentry with mini sentry" so you can still deploy a sentry

AW - Stab-n-Away: Change "Insta Cloaks on backstab" to "On backstab: Gain a boost for 5 seconds that allows you to instanlly cloak" so you can get chain stabs with it

AW - Infection (Rework):
+On backstab: Backstabed player is "Infected" and recieves bleed effect until they reach a health pack or a medic and recieves a -25% slower walk speed
+When "Infected" player dies it applies same effects to allies in a close radius and "Infected" allies do the same being able to cause a chain reaction
-Backstabs only deal 1/2 of enemies health
-Backstabed player recieves a +50% healing from all sources while bleeding

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引用自 Eternal_Suffering™：

You just want the action hale model put into cTF2

you witty lil cunt

i give you a +1

Not really I just think that this model fits better the whole concept of the weapon instead of a mini axe