引用自 the heavy weapons guy：

is possible to have custom animation for a specific weapon, such as karma chargers recent video where soldier has m1 grand with custom animation, so is possible.
but custom weapon plug in might not be able to support it sadly.

Yeah that's what I mean, is being able to join a server with custom weapons that USE custom animations. I've seen it done but only with other games' weapon animations. It'd be really cool if we could pull say, an Open Fortress or a TF2C where all classes can "hold" all weapons, but that's a client-side feature of those sourcemods and not one for TF2, so it may be like super-old AW2 where the weapons swap between their base weapon and the custom weapon (with custom animations) every several seconds.

引用自 Sofi, Inflatable GF!：

changing the weapon type allotted to each class will change the fundamentals and overall basic gameplay of each class itself to the point where we might as well not even be playing a class based game.

Exactly, but considering Pyro got a jetpack and throwable gas, maybe these new weapon types for each class could work if they fit each class? And that's the thing, they can just be already existing weapon types from other classes for other classes. You don't have to give the speedy class a giant plate of armor. Maybe Engineer could get a revolver, or Soldier a set of grenades (offensive throwables like the Guillotine). Or hell if the insistence upon weapons being based around each class' already existing weapons, maybe do more than just gimmicks? That's what I was going for with the idea of Sniper having a non bolt action sniper, because those things exist. Scout could have a heavier caliber pistol, or an automatic scatter/shotgun. I don't know, these are probably way too simple for what the server's going for. Is scoping in possible for classes other than Sniper? I know it'd be nice to actually be able to use the Direct Hit's scope. I only thought of this idea because I could see it being possible. Something like the Calefactor is an example, sure Pyro has a shotgun off the bat but the Calefactor is a shotgun designed around aiding Pyro with their burning targets. There's also the Bio Breaker, which is a literal drill......so yeah, not an entirely impossible concept...

Custom weapons are really cool. The one thing I always feel TF2 needs when I play it is more weapons. But the thing is, usually they are designed to be able to fit with the animations for each class already in-game. Scout usually gets scatterguns and beverages. Heavy usually gets miniguns, shotguns, or consumables. Pyro gets flamethrowers, flare guns, yada yada they only do so because that's what the game has animations for, and that's what sucks. The lack of unique animations for weapons really limits what custom weapons can possibly be put in-game. I think it'd be pretty interesting if Scout could have a SMG or Sniper a sniper rifle that ISN'T bolt action, or hell even just a regular rifle. Maybe Spy could have a shotgun. Not saying he should, but he could.

I have seen examples of being able to play with "custom" weapons with custom animations. By that I mean there is this community that hosts a Freak Fortress 2 Boss vs Boss server which has characters from other games whose weapon viewmodels actually look like those in the games they're from, some examples being Serious Sam and Gordon Freeman. They have full world models and animations of these characters too. That isn't exactly pertaining to TF2 though and may be done through a different method of giving custom models. A better example is the work of the UberUpgrades developer Mr. L, if you check the mod's group's announcements page you can see a bunch of images showing some of the classes holding weapons they can't normally hold with the correct animations, in-world too. There's even a video of Mr. L playing Engineer and picking up non-Engineer weapons, holding them with the correct animations (but not hands/arms, I recall this having to do with viewmodels being swapped to c_hands or w_hands or something, forget which one doesn't align with your playermodel). Though we haven't seen any big announcements from Mr. L about that whole project in the past 3 years, he is still working on it as evidenced by this message. [imgur.com]This sort of thing is what I think would be a really cool addition to Custom Weapons, that is if it's actually possible for you guys to do.

Of course though, there comes the issue of balancing, which likely may cause weapons with custom animations to not actually be put into the servers or let alone even be considered, because a whole new type of weapon can cause all sorts of balancing issues, especially if the new weapon type is pretty major (like if you gave Soldier a revolver, he'd be able to pick off enemies at range more easily which is a huge problem for a class like Pyro).


The TF2 example is more so allowing one class's weapon animations onto another class than it is custom animations, but it gets my point across.

Just something I had in mind that I thought might be good for discussion. Arguably this could go in the Suggestions for New Weapons topic but it felt big enough to deserve its own topic.
TL;DR Adding new custom weapons with different animations than what each class already has for themselves/adding in new weapon types (that utilize other classes' weapon animations) for each class could be really cool and has shown to be possible, but properly balancing them may be pretty tricky.

引用自 cTF2w Crafting：

引用自 gibus：

Swifty Swiper is way too powerful. Make it drain metal when used, decrease max metal, or just reduce ammo/metal gained from pickups or something. Or maybe a combo of these. Just seems like it's way too easy to get practically every health and ammo pickup. It's especially broken with the balanced Jag.

Yeah, we overbuff it in the last update. Before, it appeared like a joke weapon, but now it's too good.... btw, this happens alot (aka slightly improving something and it's overpowered). We have some fixes and changes planned, but I don't know when they will be gotten to.....

1) If the Engineer is in spawn, the attraction is disabled
2) The Engineer requires line of slight to pull packs
3) Add in a meter system (It takes 20 seconds of constant use to empty. For each 1 second used, it takes 3 seconds to recover. Also, a 1 second cooldown when attraction is stopped)

Those all sound like good ways to balance it.

Swifty Swiper is way too powerful. Make it drain metal when used, decrease max metal, or just reduce ammo/metal gained from pickups or something. Or maybe a combo of these. Just seems like it's way too easy to get practically every health and ammo pickup. It's especially broken with the balanced Jag.

引用自 MS Paint：

Uses either one of these models:
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=238&searchtext=
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1136369&searchtext=SMG
https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=945189383&searchtext=SMG
The Australian Assault
Level 69 Assault Rifle
[+] +250% damage bonus (14 damage max falloff 28 damage average, 42 max damage)
[+] +20% larger magazine/clip size (25 > 30 bullets in magazine)
[+] 25% faster firing speed (it now fires as fast as the MP7 and MP5SD from CS:GO)
[+] 15% movement speed (passive)
[-] Unable to access Primary weapon
[-] -20% less accurate
[-] -15% less max ammo (75 > 60 max ammo [reduces amount of spare magazines from 3 to 2])

The joke is Assault Rifles aren't in TF2, it's broken, and it drastically changes Sniper's playstyle. (hell, let's a a mag fed shotgun for Sniper to frick with the meta more)

Nice job coming back to this thread after 10 months of it being dead. What if we gave Sniper a Deagle?

A slug shotgun would be nice. I really want to see the idea of long range weapons in TF2, other than sniper rifles.

And several other weapons, but I'm leaning more on hitscan weapons than anything else.

Revengineer Redux
Uses regular Frontier Justice model

+200% damage bonus against killer
+100% accuracy against killer
[+]Increases killer's respawn time by 5-8 seconds.
-75% accuracy vs. other opponents
-50% damage penalty vs. other opponenets
[-]Only usable once per life
HIDDEN: Always makes the critical boost noise at 10% higher pitch


Ever been killed multiple times by the same guy and could never kill him? This mean motha hubbard will teach him a lesson!

Crafting please don't delete this

This is an example of how to make a weapon idea. However, not all ideas should be as simple as this. Be sure to make your idea unique in some way.

http://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=694916564&searchtext=
The Circuit Breaker

Does not require ammo
+100% bullets per shot
-50% damage penalty
HIDDEN: -50% clip size



These are mostly stock TF2 stats. A whole list of them is shown here:
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/List_of_item_attributes

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