New Engineer Secondary or new PDA- Mann's T.A.N.C (Tactical Artillery Navigation Construct)

(+) Replaces sentry with a moveable tank that you can choose from three levels
(+) Each level has more resistance, damage, and health than the next level
Level One- 15% Resistance to all damage
Level Two- 20% Resistance to all damage
Level Three- 25% Resistance to all damage

(+/-) Starts off with 100 health, has an extra 100 health with each different level but becomes slower with each level
Level One- Health- 100, move speed of 85%
Level Two- Health- 200, move speed of 70%
Level Three- Health- 300, move speed of 50%
(+/-) When the tank explodes, twice the knockback of a stock rocket- 18 ft
(+/-) As soon as tank is set, must be given a pinpoint to travel to, will make a set path for it
(+/-) can be controlled on the seperate screen, but leaves engineer vulnerable


(+/-) Has different firing modes for each level
Level One- uses a mini sentry gun
Level Two- uses a level one sentry and fires two weaker rockets
Level Three- Uses only 4 barrel rocket launcher but they have decent knockback

(-) Costs 200 metal
(-) Cannot move it after you have set it down or rescue it from danger
(-) Cannot take intel, capture control points, or push cart
(-) range of fire is half of sentry's fire range
(-) 25% movement speed when first deploying the T.A.N.C
(-) 15% less metal from ammo boxes

this a rework of an idea of mine, had a friend consider any drawbacks it might have, we really put a lot of thought into this for engineer, so what do ya think?

New Engineer Secondary- Mann's Mini Tank

(+) Replaces sentry with a moveable tank, upgradeable to level three

(+) Every upgrade gives extra resistance to the tank
Level One- 15% Resistance to all damage
Level Two- 20% Resistance to all damage
Level Three- 25% Resistance to all damage

(+/-) Has 300 health throughout all three stages
(+/-) When the tank explodes, twice the knockback of a stock rocket
(+/-) As soon as tank is set and/or upgraded, must be given a pinpoint to travel to, will make a set path for it


(-) shoots only rockets, has a fire rate of 5 seconds
(-) Any fall damage, contact with mass groups of water (2Fort's moat) makes it explode
(-) Costs 150 metal
(-) takes ten seconds to build up a level 1
(-) Cannot take intel, capture control points, or push cart
(-) range of fire is half of sentry's fire range
(-) Movement speed of 25%

New Demoman Melee- Market Weedening

(+) Deals crits while user is sticky Jumping

(-) 20% slower firing speed
(-) No Random Crits

just like the Market Gardener but for Demoman, plus somone help with a better name

New Heavy Secondary (Dual Wield) - VODA

(+) Special Attack: Turns into a throwable item that can cover Heavy and any nearby teammates in a "friendly" wet condition, exstinguishing them if on fire

(+) Weakens enemy Pyro's flamethrower damage by 25% for the 10 second duration and immune to afterburn.
(+) If in water, stay in it to refill you Water Jug in 10 seconds

(+/-) Wear it like the razorback, instead of instantly killing you, it only damages Heavy for a 100 damage, also covers the spy in water, making him easier to track.

(-) Wet friendlies are Critted instead of mini-critted against weapons that mini-crit wet players during the 10 second duration. (such as the Neon Annhilator).

(-) Takes a minute to charge

(-) Heavy yells, "VODA" everytime he throws the water jug?

Tired of your teammates being burned alive? Tired of them dying from the afterburn from enemy pyros and/or not making to a medkit in time?
Well then use the Water Jug to help teammates and yourself.
And stop those spies from killing you so quickly.

-has the range like the gas passer when used

this is the former pyro weapon idea turned Heavy since it makes more sense for Heavy instead of Pyro, plus comedic

the design could be a giant barrel with a handle for Heavy to hold, THAT IS HIS DRINK

New Engineer Melee- Frontline Gauntlet

(+) Every time someone uses your teleporters, gain one guarenteed mini crit (up to three per life)
(+) Gain 5% building speed with every teleportation use (up to a (50% increase maximum))

(-) Mini crits will be subsequent hits
(-) mini crits reset upon death
(-) Building Speed with reset upon death
(-) no random crits


Frontier Justice is great for the Gunslinger, but what about the teleporters that usually get ignored?

This Gauntlet will make sure the engineer doesn't forget that his teammates help him protect his nest by distracting the enemy.


this was my Frontline Assult Shotgun but Ducky thought it was overpowered or spammable so I reworked to be a melee, thinking the design could be like a actual gauntlet

New Engineer Secondary (Throwable)- The Eddison Affect

(+) Sets a small electrical field onto the ground when thrown, does 15 damage for 3 seconds.
(+) Causes slow down by 60% on enemies within the circle.
(+) Disables enemy engineers' building for three second, and does 10 damage for 3 three seconds to buildings within the field.
(+) Shows electrical particle effect on enemies

(-) Has a Recharge time of one minute
(-) Cannot resupply by ammo packs or supply closet
(-) May break after three direct explosions if active

the field is the size of the wrap assassin's ornament projectile

my friend Speckie wanted to try out an idea and this is what we came up with, sounds overpowered possibly, or could underpowered, also the design would be a lightbulb of some kind

Someone ask Uncle Dane

New Scout Primary- The Accurate Potshot

+100% more accurate
+10% faster reload

Fires a solid slug instead of a spread fire
-50% falloff damage
-34% clip size (from 6 to 4)

Tired of every gun of scout's being damage penaltied? Well worry not this one won't be that kind of gun, shoots a solid slug instead, rewards those who have pretty good aiming

]New Spy Knife- Silent Executioner

(+) for every two backstabs, you earn a token
(+) use the Reload button to use token to gain status immunity for 8 seconds
(+) Silent Killer

(-) 25% slower firing speed
(-) 50% swap speed
(-) 10% slower movement speed

knife looks like one of those old medival axes, however the wrist guard is the blades and the tip is the knife

New Heavy Secondary (Dual Wield) - VODA

(+) Special Attack: Turns into a throwable item that can cover Heavy and any nearby teammates in a "friendly" wet condition, exstinguishing them if on fire

(+) Weakens enemy Pyro's flamethrower damage by 25% for the 10 second duration and immune to afterburn.
(+) If in water, stay in it to refill you Water Jug in 10 seconds

(+/-) Wear it like the razorback, instead of instantly killing you, it only damages Heavy for a 100 damage, also covers the spy in water, making him easier to track.

(-) Wet friendlies are Critted instead of mini-critted against weapons that mini-crit wet players during the 10 second duration. (such as the Neon Annhilator).

(-) Takes a minute to charge

(-) Heavy yells, "VODA" everytime he throws the water jug?

Tired of your teammates being burned alive? Tired of them dying from the afterburn from enemy pyros and/or not making to a medkit in time?
Well then use the Water Jug to help teammates and yourself.
And stop those spies from killing you so quickly.

-has the range like the gas passer when used

this is the former pyro weapon idea turned Heavy since it makes more sense for Heavy instead of Pyro, plus comedic

the design could be a giant barrel with a handle for Heavy to hold, THAT IS HIS DRINK

New Engineer Melee- Frontline Gauntlet

(+) Every time someone uses your teleporters, gain one guarenteed mini crit (up to three per life)
(+) Gain 5% building speed with every teleportation use (up to a (50% increase maximum))

(-) Mini crits will be subsequent hits
(-) mini crits reset upon death
(-) Building Speed with reset upon death
(-) no random crits


Frontier Justice is great for the Gunslinger, but what about the teleporters that usually get ignored?

This Gauntlet will make sure the engineer doesn't forget that his teammates help him protect his nest by distracting the enemy.


this was my Frontline Assult Shotgun but Ducky thought it was overpowered or spammable so I reworked to be a melee, thinking the design could be like a actual gauntlet