Ursprungligen skrivet av Crafting | cTF2w:

My change sugguestions for the Infection:

Infection
1) infection stages reduced to 4 and 8 seconds (from 5 & 10)

2) remove movement speed reduction (during stage 2)
-NOTE: I haven't asked Theray if he can do this.

3) added bleeding during both stages, along with the 10 damage
-NOTE: I haven't asked Theray if he can do this. (I might be able to do this right now, but it would be "on hit", but not on backstab. So you could facestab and make people bleed)

4) add sound or text when infection starts
-NOTE: I haven't asked Theray if he can do this.

5) maybe add some bonus melee range

Great ! totally agree with 2) and 5) !
the 1) might be a good trick too
but we might no need 3) if we have 4)

Ursprungligen skrivet av (◕ᴥ◕し):

Ursprungligen skrivet av Jregory Krisk ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°):

The current Infection is OP and UP at the same time. All which this does is remove the OP.

Infection is not that op, stock weapon is better
Infection is glitched and don't kill everytime
It's unfair for "no-sound user" or "laggy player"
basicly, it's a bad troll weapon who could become legion some days

Ursprungligen skrivet av Jregory Krisk ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°):

For the Infection how about:
(+) On backstab: bleed for 10 seconds
(+) Doesn't lose disguise on succesful backstab
(-) backstab only does 75% health
I know it's a completely different weapon (it's an AW weapon called Backnacker) but since everyone is complaining on the current Infection it's better to suggest everything.

You haven,t understand that the infection is underpowered and need buff instead of nerf ?

The plugin you use for FF2
Replace every syringues gun by the basic one
So we can't pick custom one
Worst case scenario should get ubercharge on kill removed for this mod
And +1% on hit

All stack weapon (fighting spirit) should stack on hit and stuff like that

Anyway, good job for balancing all these weapon

Ursprungligen skrivet av (◕ᴥ◕し):

Ursprungligen skrivet av Thrynity:

can't use % due to Stop that tank and freak fortress high health (you would instakill ff2 boss)

Oh yeah, I guess that makes sense

Ursprungligen skrivet av Thrynity:

The finish line should just be removed of ff2 servers, no need to nerf it

It is already removed

so it's fine, no need to be reworked
hope you understood why it's 75 health instead of under 1/3 life
(culling axe is now a good choice for me)

Ursprungligen skrivet av (◕ᴥ◕し):

Ursprungligen skrivet av Thrynity:

2 second stun O_o, look at medic escape

Agreed, it is a bit too OP.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Thrynity:

Finish line only 1% ??? that suck

No. The boss(es) can get ridiculous amounts of health when the server has lots of players.

Ursprungligen skrivet av Thrynity:

Culling blade can't use % now

Uh, why?

Ursprungligen skrivet av Thrynity:

75 health is fine

Not sure to which stat you are refering to, so I won't say anything

can't use % due to Stop that tank and freak fortress high health (you would instakill ff2 boss)

The finish line should just be removed of ff2 servers, no need to nerf it

that all

Ursprungligen skrivet av xX_LarryMoments_Xx:

Freak Fortress removed weapons balance:

Finish Line (REWORKED)
(+) Deal additional damage equal to 1% of target missing health
(+) 30% More secondary ammo on wearer (intesead of clip size)
(-) 50% damage penalty
(-) 20% slower fire rate (same as pick pocket)
American Gothic (REWORKED):
(+) On hit: Stun for 2 seconds
(-) 25% damage penalty
(-) 40% Slower attack speed
Culling Blade (REWORKED):
While active:
(+) Deal More damage as health is reducted (max of 50%)
(+) Movement speed increase as health decreases (max of 30%)
(+) 50% damage resistance when more than 120 health
(-) 70% damage vulnerability when less than 110 health
(-) 35% slower fire rate

all you rework... suck, sorry for being mean but it's true
2 second stun O_o, look at medic escape

Finish line only 1% ??? that suck

Culling blade can't use % now
75 health is fine

the weapon you discribed is pretty OP and not like culling blade

Ursprungligen skrivet av Sebs:

Can we restart from the ground with the infection and everyone post your ideas?
Keeping in mind 2 simple things:
- Stealth for backstabbing unnoticed.
- Making Spy more annoying, since a normal backstab at least leaves you at respawn screen and not as an useless "soon to be corpse" walking around.

For me the infection is the "Extra time to respawn, since you have to wait to die and wait to respawn", making you useless for extra time

look at my ownb suggestion in the new weapon topic
glad you enjoy it

http://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=312952829

(+) +25% range
(+) can slay multiple players (all in range)
(+) on kill : stack a crit
(-) on crit miss : -150% attack rate (or knife parlaysis like razor back)
(-) -50% attack rate
(-) no random crit

Another idea for it

(+) hold fire down to charge attack

• charge increase range up to +50%
  
• charge increase damage up to +50%
  
• slowed while charging (like hunts man, -50%)
  
• automaticly swing when full charged, 1 second to charge

(-) no random crit
(-) -25% melee attack rate

Something else

(+) can attack while charging
(+) crit kill refil bar
(+) damage increase on charge time (the loger it is, the stronger it will be, up to +50%)
(-) -50% base damage

Bio-Hazard a good one for pentakill

(+) on stab : get Infection runes for 5 second from mann power up
(-) -50% health from medic box
(-) no backstab damage

Explanation : Infection remove nearby heal box, the bleed of runes slowly kill players but can be cured by commons way, after stab, you can infect many people, use it for group

Pandemic sound like the actual infection

(+) +100% melee range
(+) backstab infect

• nothing for the first 5 second
  
• scare for 5 second (disable is glitchy)
  
• die after 10 second
  
• if player have more than 75% health, he survive

(+) silent weapon, no sound, body disapear, no sceam
(-) no direct damage
(-) -25% attack rate

Plague for 1v1 it's a good one

(+) on stab : target indefinitly bleed
(+) crits on bleeding target
(-) no backstab damage
(-) -25% melee range

WildFire enjoy plague ?

(+) on stab : ignite for 10 second
(+) victim in fire deploy ring of fire against their friends, apply the same effet
(+) +66% afterburn damage (5 damage by second)
(-) no damage

Timed Killer for multi stab and flee before anyone detect you

(-) victim die after 3 second on backstab
(+) don't loose disguise on stab
(+) +25% attack rate
(-) -30% damage