@Terror Which is why you're too scared to face us, amirite?

ow sorry u are the best

#1 hated guy on pc
gratz ;DD

@omni i totaly agree with u ^^ striatus doesn't have a change fseu doesn't have it to no 1 on mw2 has but veteran created his own imagination land and is telling other people that they are dellusional but veteran really believes he is the best of EU, thats called dellusional ^^

now lets watch 4 veteran's arrogance comments.

@Spyder Obsessed much? xP.

maybe watch to urself veteran and count ur own comments

@Spyder, It's not a relugar thing in Striatus. It's a regular thing w/VAC. nuff said

Anyways i overused anyways xD

Yea i agree on the fact that VAC is failing in detecting cheat use, it takes months to detect a cheater. The incident that happend this summer is ofc a failure but it has nothing to do with the bans that occured this 2 last months. About the esl yea if u rly did that u stand a chance against them . it was on mw2 right? Cause on mw1 teams as SK.gaming dont lose so easily , i supose u know that xD ... btw the Formality in ur writing is rly funny some times u overdo it hahaha (should serve as proof that VAC can no longer be used as a method of detecting hackers. its teeeeeeeeeeea time xD) I dont rly know who got banned i heard n0oah and devine and some others..they were advertised as ur clans BEST players evryone else remained in their shadows thats bad tbh . Anyways i think u should kick whoever is considered a cheater. Once ur marked with the cheater tag there is no turning back :P ... anyways u should delete this group it has no meaning .

Oh and @omniptnt we beat the #1 ESL 5v5 SnD Ladder champions on SnD Terminal and SnD Highrise. Yes, we do stand more than a slight chance against those guys :)

@Viruus when the bannings happened, we were 16-0. Now we're 23-0. Do the math.

@omniptnt VAC never banned their second accounts they've played on since the first got VAC banned. Either VAC failed with the ban, or VAC failed to detect in the second. Either way, VAC is faulty. No matter what, that accounts as proof that VAC is faulty as hell. Lol'd.

Hell, the summer incident where thousands of wrongfully banned accounts were given L4D2 for free should serve as proof that VAC can no longer be used as a method of detecting hackers. Besides, only 1 of those people was used in competitive matches.

@Spyder Obsessed much? xP.

And this is no offence and ,im not flaming . Its just that if u were more friendly evrything would be better . but instead of letting ur pride wall fall for a while u make others hate u , dunno mate thats just too immature this isnt gonna help u with ur real life ...I hate hacking(thats why im not banned woohoo)who doesnt?(hackers xD ) So the fact is that some of your players got banned , reason ofc is cheating , and no such things like cammos and ♥♥♥♥ . Were not kids anymore. Hacking is a disease in pc gaming since its creation
so just refer those hackers of yours as a failure in gaming and move on. I will see u guys in the cod7 competitive mode. As u realised QS is dead. Good byes peace . ps. veteran dont flame :P

This whole thing is a disgrace to gaming , ive never seen a clan making such a fuss ... u guys should just realise that mw2 gaming and community was a freakin fan made thing . mw2 wanst a COMPETITVE GAME . it was just a fun game . Striatus venox fseu , pls tell me if u guys have a chance on a esl tournament or a cpl or somewhere that is rly OFFICIAL. most of the "top" guys in mw2 claim that they were something on esl on cod 4 . veteran ok mate u created the freaking sniper community , you decided the rules on the COMPETITIVE SNIPERS UNION i dont rly remember if that was the name , but its just a unnofficial creation , so the thing u created and u brag about is just a proxy , nothing like the real thing . so be a real gamer and delete this group full o nonsense , i told u in private that having haters is rly not going anywhere good . in a real gaming community in CS for example ur gonna fail with that attitude .

I like how choffy says it like it is a regular thing in Striatus. 'These players ain't banned yet'

@viirus, your clan and fl0w for example got owned with the players that aint banned atm,

Tbh viirus xD Check their YT channel, they did lol

PLZ disban STRIATUS the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hackers.. most of them and you veteran liked your commentaries but plz quit striatus and dont act to be the best..
since the most players of striatus got banned did u win any CW afther that?? I quess NOT

OUT WITH THE OLD, IN WITH THE NEW. Remember that quote veteran? I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ love it! OUT WITH VETERAN, IN WITH MAGIIC

Veteran, I think we made our point. The Sniping Community hates you. And ONLY you. Please VANISH INTO THIN AIR! Let MaGiic take over! God that would please us all!!! We'e begging you to leave PC Gaming!

Who actually cares about all this ♥♥♥♥, it's a game, Veteran's "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ personality" transfers onto steam because he's a cocky bastard sitting on an armchair behind his Clan members. WOSSUP PEEPOL, STWIATUZ VETEWAN HERE.

You actually think Kiki's a hacker?

You're allowed to 100% trust your teamates for not hacking even through all the hack cry's from other players that face them, including a Vac ban on top? **I'M NOT ACCUSING THEM OFF HACKING, i actually think they're clean. But MAIN POINT IS there's certainly ALOT more reason to think they hack, than to think Kiki hacks.**

You judge kiki as a hacker by just playing against him. Yet MANY more players (FsEu ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ etc) would say nOoah/dev1ne as hackers just by playing against them aswell. It's the same story. It simply isn't proof of anything.

We know Kiki better than you, we've played with him longer than you, he doesn't hack. ex-teamates say he did, but only because of prejudice based on the knowledge that 5 months ago he once intentionally tested a wallhack - not for benefit but to see how it works.

srsly... there is 1 big hole in this pc sniping community and the name of the hole is -> Striatus
without striatus will the sniping community much better !

Nice point Euphoria :)

@veteran the summer accident dont proove that your guys werent cheating, those bans were for modified gamefiles such as custom cammos or config edits such as ping bars.
So if your guys got banned now when btw other well known hackers were also banned (such as infuze or chronix) pretty break up your "rational explanations"
i mean Its such a coincedence all the guys who were well known hackers (such as infuze, chronix, etc) were banned recently AND that your guys also got banned...
To me that pretty much explains everything.

look at that guy omg XDDDD i can just lol at you man
get a gf or friends i think you dont even go to clubs or out with friends i know that you are lonely bcause your parents hate you too... and thats the end how a guy can end just look at Michael nolife archer XDDDDD
pls nobody is saying that you are ugly or something everybody just wanna tell you : GET A LIFE !
think about it
And normaly we dont hate striatus we only hate you not more :D so change the grp name to Veteran Hating grp

LOL, I actually though you we're smart for a momment, then realised that you're nothing but someone who avoids awkward situations and comepletely repel the truth, you have nothing to stand on with the devine and n0oah situation. We have a lot more to stand on about Kiki.

V verbal ownage on a new level.

@Spyder focusing on the wrong things again, eh?

I prioritise and you don't. That's why I got more succesful, and why you're here trying desperatley to be better than me.

The End.

Wow. I just verbally hammered everybody here. G'night-ish people. Ima go out now.

Ignore what evidence by the way? You've gave me no evidence.

And also @pzn just read some of my responses to Spyder for infallible proof that n0oah or deviNe's VAC bans prove nothing. I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lol @ you btw.

OMG, I EFFED UP, IMA DELETE MY YOUTUBE ACCOUNTS AND MONTAGES AND RUN AWAY. NOOO TERROR, DON'T UPLOAD MY MONTAGE. TAKE IT DOWN, TAKE IT DOOOWN.

Totally had nothing to hide /sarcasm :P

Yet again, you do not answer.

@Spyder So now you're goignt o ignore th eevidence, because it's not the evidence I either said in the past i could use but I now don't have to?

See, it doesn't matter to me because I've proven the point anyway. it matters to you because you're obsessed :P lolololo

<3 +1 ego

@pzN contrary to what terror told you, i actually agreed to the CM, asked for scheduling, he said shceduling was for no-lifers, I said we could 3v3 CM there and then (back when we still 3v3d in CMs) and he refused and deleted me from his friends list. I've already showed the 'terror is ignoring you' pictures.

If you don't believe me, ask emperor. he was there when terror admitted it. I was never asked for a CM again. None of the messages I was sent had anything to do with having another CM. Besides, how could I? If i scheduled, he'd say it was for no-lifers. When I asked for one ont he spot, he said it wasn't fair.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ excuses. Now he's declared dead.

lol esuba btw. I <3 mazadox as well.

Wooo intense debates ftw

I'm not QQing, I'm actually having quite a lot of fun watching you make up utter ♥♥♥♥, you have not shown anybody the 'ticket' that n0oah got back from VAC, you have not explained the 50 people report ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that you made up, you have not explained about devine using something to get through VAC, you can't go on your stupid facts for proof. ANSWER MY ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ QUESTIONS.

@Kazz Missed the point. I said that that means VAC doesn't prove who does and doesn't hack, hence there is as much evidence for n0oah and devine as there is for Kiki.

I explained my rage was directed at the fact I used to think me and Spyder saw ont eh same level, not levied at Kiki himself - major point being that we 2-0'd you while you had Kiki ANYWAY, so it had no reason to get to me.

And we never cried wallbang

@Kiki Didn't I simply disprove the VAC bans' use as evidence for hacks? I did indeed, then proceeded to say that by the logic of you lot, their inability to ban the guys AGAIN proved (again by YOUR logic) that they don't hack.

Then I used that contradiction to show VAC to be faulty, then cited the summer incident further. This defeated the attacks on n0oah and devine, then I explained my opinion on you, the reaosn i followed it and the reason I'm not following it anymore (despite it still being my belief).

@ Vetewan FsEu ignored me for ages and now that I finally got contact with them, they've declared themselves dead competitivley.

??? not true ? they asked you nrly 3 months long and you just telld them maybe in 2 weeks and they waited long time for this cw ;)
and the funny thing is after you get nightz you asked fseu for a cw because you are a ♥♥♥♥♥ and you knowd that fseu can beat stwiatus in a cw that why you just tryd to get nightz andd......

Devine = hacker
nooah = hacker for sure
so stop telling us your storys about modded lobbys hacked acc you ♥♥♥♥ just go suicideeee PLIIS THX BAI
btw im kiwi

@Kiki I remember it's a game, that's why i don't make groups or join groups dedicated to hating individuals or groups. I simply trololololo them and occasionally take them over for the lulz.

Veteran you use the logic that playing on an account for a few weeks and not getting Vac banned, instantly proves your not a hacker. Yet in Kiki's case hes been playing this game since its release - he hasn't been Vac banned, using your flawless logic that would say Kiki doesnt hack.

Also, you have this pre rage about thinking Kiki hacks, so everytime you see a slightly dodgy killcam you instantly assume its wallhack. Without realising killcams take things out of context...it could be anything, teamcalling, good awareness, lucky timing, knowledge of where people typically go, etc.

If any respected player did some wallbang, you'd call it sick. If kiki who you already assume wallhacks did a wallbang - you instantly cry wallhack because of prejudice thoughts that hes dodgy.

Also the 50 report thing is actuall ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, Vac is automated.

And i also think it's quite funny that I don't get banned for hacks and people in ur clan get banned and they don't even hack?
Think reasonable.

All write a ''+'' if you think vac pwnz striatus

@Spyder Q.Q more? I did answer your question, or are you just dyslexic.

No, you've forgotten the objective. Askign for evidence I don't NEED to produce because the fact is provides for, I have proved otherwise :P

''I no longer care about the Kiki situation. he couldn't even beat us.''
I do have a life so it's hard to beat PCzombies and i don't need hacks to have fun in a video game and that's what it's all about. Nice that you are the best but I think you guys are forgetting it's just a game.

@Euphoria in that you have shown that VAC is suspectable to bugs, citing the summer incident I would have cited myself. That is why VAC would do it without any reason. This was a wave of bannings that did not just affect my group.

Regardless, to say we're any worse without those banned is frankly stupid. You can't say 'apart from this, this is perfect' because whatever you are tryign to prove to be perfect is inherently IMPERFECT. You can't ignore it's faults and claim it to be perfect, xP.

@Kiki no competitive snipign team likes OpTic. At all. Trust me, I know.

Also, Kiki may not be able to beat you, but he sure is a damn nicer guy than you are and most likely ever will be.

ANSWER THE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ QWESTCHUN.

@Spyder Due to the fact we 2-0'd you 16 times since last week while you've had Kiki, I don't have any need to supply proof.

The fact I've supplied proof of n0oah and devine through reasoning and rational argument negates any need of any form of video evidence. Nightz was used in 1 game of 1 scrim. Again, that we 2-0'd in. Due to the fact I have also used my rational arguments to prove VAC to be false, you have nothing on Nightz either.

Sarah was still never used.

Stop QQing over the fact that Striatus is better than you <3 and every other sniping team on the PC. The one clan we have left to face is terrified to face us. FsEu ignored me for ages and now that I finally got contact with them, they've declared themselves dead competitivley.

Q.Q more. It pissed me off that I told people I met eye-to-eye with you yet you let such an obvious guy like Kiki slip by you. Now that I don't even have you on my FL anymore, I no longer care about the Kiki situation. he couldn't even beat us.

I think Veterans work here is done.

srsly veteran go and suicide and everybody here is happy !

BTW Veteran I think you did something wrong with Striatus, Even though ur probably the best sniper clan on PC, almost every other sniper clan on PC hates u guys. And if u look at OpTiC every1 loves that clan and they were also the best at some point. Maybe change ur attitude bro.

Sorry veteran but the lack of objectivity here impress me. Why would vac ban someone with no reason ? (The only thing i have seen where vac ban with no reason was the bug that ocurred on summer, in which people with custom files such as cammos or pingbars got banned) Appart of that particular issue vac is infallible. And if you want to believe your friends is ok but the fact here is that they got banned for using hacks (Maybe they just use them for a game or for a minute, but vac got them) and that fact is not gonna change even if you want to lie to yourself, which is something that apparently you like to do...

COme to think of it, we've 2-0'd every clan we 2-0'd with n0oah or deviNe WITHOUT n0oah or deviNe in the past 3 weeks. I lol'd hard.