Romans 15:13

Titus 1:16
16 They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work.

Titus 2:13-14
13 waiting for our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ, 14 who gave himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.

Titus 3:14
14 And let our people learn to devote themselves to good works, so as to help cases of urgent need, and not be unfruitful.

1 John 3:18
18 Little children, let us not love in word or talk but in deed and in truth.

James 1:22
22 But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.

Exodus 15:2

If you plan a trip to the beach but before you do you turn on the TV and hear the weatherman say the beach you plan on going to is going to rain and be closed off and you say you believe him, did you actually believe if you still plan the beach trip? Similar if you say you believe in Jesus but don't act on his words you don't actually believe. You must be a doer of the word and not just a hearer. Faith without works of the teachings of Christ is dead and not real faith

Acts 16:27-34
27 When the jailer woke and saw that the prison doors were open, he drew his sword and was about to kill himself, supposing that the prisoners had escaped. 28 But Paul cried with a loud voice, “Do not harm yourself, for we are all here.” 29 And the jailer[e] called for lights and rushed in, and trembling with fear he fell down before Paul and Silas. 30 Then he brought them out and said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?” 31 And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” 32 And they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all who were in his house. 33 And he took them the same hour of the night and washed their wounds; and he was baptized at once, he and all his family. 34 Then he brought them up into his house and set food before them. And he rejoiced along with his entire household that he had believed in God.

All these people who claim the faith yet glorify USA or the west are lost in the world. "western values" is not from God. Democracy is not godly you have 0 say in who is king or "religious freedom" which is just allowing demonic worship. Look at the recent delusion for Venezuela raid claiming its "justice" brining its leader to face "justice" while ignoring the deaths of the hundreds of men who were killed to capture him in this "justice" the greater evil gets to live and the hundreds of people who never did anything worthy of condemnation get the death penalty. Read the story of Pual and how when an angel freed him from prison the guard feared he escaped and was going to kill himself for fear what the higher ups would do but Paul helped him and preached to him and saved him.

John 8:30-31
30 As he was saying these things, many believed in him. 31 So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed him, “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, 32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

You must do the teachings of Christ. Do not let a denomination tell you what Jesus taught pick a word for word translation on https://www.biblegateway.com/ for free or buy a physical one. This includes all of them like hating yourself or humbling yourself or forgiving those who transgress you. If you think Jesus is king which mean ruler over everything you must acknowledge all these "evil" nations with their "evil" governments are put in place by God for Gods own purpose. Fight for the knowledge of God against the unbelievers where your mouth that speaks words is your weapon.

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Hebrews 3:12-14
12 Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God. 13 But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called “today,” that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original confidence firm to the end.

Titus 1:9
9 He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.

1 Timothy 5:20
20 As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear

Ephesians 5:11-13
11 Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of the things that they do in secret. 13 But when anything is exposed by the light, it becomes visible, 14 for anything that becomes visible is light. Therefore it says,
“Awake, O sleeper,
and arise from the dead,
and Christ will shine on you.”

Part of being a light in the world is to shine light on darkness and reveal whats in the dark which is sin. Look at who Jesus called the best on earth when he was here John the Baptist who died rebuking the king for breaking Gods law. If you don't rebuke and correct you are not being a light in the world and hiding the light under your bed.

You must be zealous for God and rebuke and correct this is a matter of life and death. Many not some will be told "I never knew you" by Jesus. The ones teaching water baptism saves or to break Gods commandments to follow traditions of man are no different than someone convincing kids and adults to drink bleach. Love is not being idle you do not love someone if you know they are doing bad and do and say nothing to them.

Please keep this chat friendly and holy. Amen

you cant be traditional and be catholic. they teach to break Gods commandments. thats not traditional. the early Church is in the Bible following their teachings is traditional

again nowhere am I defending a single denomination. what your doing is called tribalism. my loyalty is to God alone

yes USA is mystery babylon doomed for destruction. also you realize the Christians in hollywood are mainly catholic same with political leaders. your right it is ran by pedophiles who claim the catholic religion

Who said protestant nations don't sin? We are talking about catholic religion because you specifically are defending it and its transgressions of Gods laws. You think im defending any specific denomination? I'm defending the word of God. My loyalty is to God and God alone not a denomination

while Catholic countries like Poland and Hungary, etc still remain pretty traditional...

It seems like by your logic all protestant countries are cursed.

and USA as a majority protestant country is a birthplace of all modern wickedness - LGBT, feminism movement, hollywood, USA sadly literally run by pedophiles, as it seems from Epstein files...

Lol, you bring up WW2? Okay. Your protestant nations were almost all under occupation. Germany the birthplace of your heresy of protestantism - fell into the pagan nazi cult. Netherlands fell to Germany almost immediately, and the same happened to the Scandinavian countries, which were and are largely protestant.

Matthew 15:7-9
7 You hypocrites, rightly did Isaiah prophesy of you:
8 ‘This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far away from Me.
9 ‘But in vain do they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.’”

Mark 7:8-9
8 Neglecting the commandment of God, you hold to the tradition of men.”
9 He was also saying to them, “You are experts at setting aside the commandment of God in order to keep your tradition.

WW2? again you just fail to understand what's being said. destroyed not eradicated. These nations have gone under siege and defeated. This is what cant happen to a faithful nation. If it wasnt for the sake of others reading this and learning catholics have 0 defense I would of stopped talking to you long ago you clearly are the blind leading the blind destined to fall into a pit. people can learn catholics cant tell you what a graven image is even though theres multiple verses describing what exactly it is just to defend the traditions of man taught to them

you realize there was multiple crusades right? the "Siege of Jerusalem"

key word "had" Just like Jerusalem under Solomon "had" military barracks in other nations

Catholic countries like France, Portugal, and Spain literally had colonies all over the world and were among the richest and most powerful nations of their time. They evangelized across the globe - from the Americas to the Philippines, nice "punishment from God" lol. You clearly don't know a thing about history.

You clearly don't know anything about history of crusaders, do you? Because first crusade was already after The great Schism - eastern Christendom (Eastern Orthodox) were suffering under muslim attacks and asked western Christendom (Catholic Italy, France, England, Germany (modern names of the countries), etc) to help against muslim invaders. Catholic crusaders went to help against muslims.

key word a nation which all those nations have suffered destruction. Just like Jerusalem was destroyed but there's still Jews with synagogues in Jerusalem. You constantly fail to see what's being said its crazy. God doesn't completely destroy his people the whole point is to get them to repent of course there's still remnants. and what do you mean catholics never fallen to muslims what do you think the crusades were? talking to you is pointless you clearly dont have eyes to see and ears to hear your just going to constantly ignore majority of what im saying and respond to something that can simply be disproven and never acknowledge you were proven wrong like has been constantly happening

"A nation that's actually faithful to God would never be destroyed"

Yes, this is why Catholic Rome (Italy), France, Poland, Hungary and so on have never fallen to muslims...

Solomon knew that destruction of a nation is Gods judgment on it. Just like those nations taken by Islam before the crusades was Gods judgment on those nations. A nation that's actually faithful to God would never be destroyed. Again saying Jesus is King is one thing actually living it is what real faith is. If Gods wrath is against a nation then help them by preaching repentance not picking up a sword and calling for a crusade.

2 Chronicles 6:36-39
36 “When they sin against You (for there is no man who does not sin) and You are angry with them and deliver them to an enemy, so that [s]they take them away captive to a land far off or near, 37 if they [t]take thought in the land where they are taken captive, and repent and make supplication to You in the land of their captivity, saying, ‘We have sinned, we have committed iniquity and have acted wickedly’; 38 if they return to You with all their heart and with all their soul in the land of their captivity, where they have been taken captive, and pray toward their land which You have given to their fathers and the city which You have chosen, and toward the house which I have built for Your name, 39 then hear from heaven, from Your dwelling place, their prayer and supplications, and maintain their cause and forgive Your people who have sinned against You.

Isaiah 42:23-25
23 Who among you will give ear to this,
will attend and listen for the time to come?
24 Who gave up Jacob to the looter,
and Israel to the plunderers?
Was it not the Lord, against whom we have sinned,
in whose ways they would not walk,
and whose law they would not obey?
25 So he poured on him the heat of his anger
and the might of battle;
it set him on fire all around, but he did not understand;
it burned him up, but he did not take it to heart.

the point clearly went completely over your head. You can't find a single defense from God for making your graven images but you can find pagans doing it. Just like when Israel brought the wrath of God on them for having graven images and worshipping the queen of heaven. why do you think the west is being taken over by migrants? the falling away of faith is already here just like Israel before Jerusalem was destroyed was complaining about foreigners building their walls. the same thing that happened with Jerusalem is happening right now. the best is literally going to do the will of God and the horsemen of the apocalypse are literal angels

The difference is God never commanded carved images to be made on his saints like he did with animal sacrifices. You just completely failed on understanding what was being said. Apostles never commanded to make images and they warned to watch out for future false teachers bringing in destructive heresies. Again learn from the story of Jesus transfiguration on the mountain they wanted to make tens for Moses and Elijah and God rebuked them and told them to listen to Jesus because salvation is in Jesus alone.

Do you know that animal sacrifices were before Abraham? Must be that Jews just adapted the pagan practice - therefore animal sacrifices were wrong by your logic. Also, do you know that the symbol of shepherd is used in many pagan religions even before Christ incarnation? Also, pagans drank water, this means that we all are doing pagan practices by drinking water by your great logic...

Or you just turn on your brain and think that there are universal symbols and depictions that are used in a lot of cultures, even universal practices. Because when pagans sacrficed animals to false gods - it was wrong, but then Jews did sacrifice animals, according to the laws of Moses - it was right. Do you understand that exact same practice can mean different things? Same with halos and so on.

https://pompeiiinpictures.com/pompeiiinpictures/R6/6%2015%2001%20exedra%20ne%20p2.htm

https://www.istockphoto.com/photos/Pantheon-Rome?msockid=0d67d096bb2160920fabc652bab36176

if you can't see the similarities between catholic and orthadox churches to ancient pagan rome you are not being honest. Look at the pictures with the halo behind their heads that the churches do as well with their depiction on Jesus and the saints or angels. It was clearly influenced by pagan roman culture

חָמָס violence

KJV: cruel(-ty), damage, false, injustice, X oppressor, unrighteous, violence (against, done), violent (dealing), wrong
NASB: violence, violent, malicious, wrong

I would hope you would come to your senses and realize you not being able to tell me what a graven image is a tell tale sign that you are wrong. Those who humble themselves will be exalted and those who exalt themselves will be humbled

You just claimed I'm switching topics and do just as you accused me. This is crazy. Saying video games is violent is like saying baseball or any sport is violent. No valid argument. Violence is bloodshed

"If God let me take care of one of his children, I wouldn't give it any toys"

Yet, you are playing games with violence, where the point is to murder images of humans, but oh no, wooden toy of cat is satanic and evil... you have a huge problem with double standarts.

switching topics? Me talking about you worshipping marry is switching topic from your graven images of marry? again always arguing never with scripture

If God let me take care of one of his children, I wouldn't give it any toys. You keep turning to the logic of the world and refusing to accept scripture. I'm not defending toys so this argument is literally useless and clearly you just avoiding the truth on the carved images in your religion. Again you are not giving a single definition on what a graven image is while arguing what is a graven image. This is what real hypocrisy looks like. You are just trying to avoid the truth about the synagogue of satan called the catholic church

Do you even hear your absolute nonsense? And switching topic shows that you are a wicked deceiver like your father the devil, who can't stick to the truth and manipulate a disscussion by bringing other matters.

MOST Holy Mary, Virgin Mother of God, I (full name), most unworthy though I am to be thy servant, yet touched by thy motherly care for me and longing to serve thee, do, in the presence of my Guardian Angel and all the court of Heaven, choose thee this day to be my queen, my advocate, and my mother, and I firmly purpose to serve thee evermore myself and to do what I can that all may render faithful service to thee.

Therefore, most devoted Mother, through the Precious Blood thy Son poured out for me, I beg thee and beseech thee, deign to take me among thy clients and receive me as thy servant forever.

Aid me in my every action, and beg for me the grace never, by word or deed or thought, to be displeasing in thy sight and that of thy most holy Son.

Think of me, my dearest Mother, and desert me not at the hour of death. Amen.

so wait, wooden toys are bad and "carved images", but plastic toys aren't? What?

Dear Saint Therese,
the beloved flower of Jesus and Mary,
the Immaculate Virgin,
who specially favored thee,
even from thy infancy,
so as to lead thee to her cloister
and there to conduct thee as a spouse of God up to the Altar;
obtain for me, O little Saint,
that Mary would continue to shower her blessing upon me,
so that I may ever remain her faithful client,
ever loving her and imitating her virtues,
especially the virtue of the ardent love of God.

from your own religion

He falls down before it and worships; he also prays to it and says, “Deliver me,

literally catholics and marry like your own prayer i showed already

19 No one [m]recalls, nor is there knowledge or understanding to say, “I have burned half of it in the fire and also have baked bread over its coals. I roast meat and eat it. Then [n]I make the rest of it into an abomination, [o]I fall down before a block of wood!” 20 He feeds on ashes; a deceived heart has turned him aside. And he cannot deliver [q]himself, nor say, “Is there not a lie in my right hand?”

14 Surely he cuts cedars for himself, and takes a cypress or an oak and raises it for himself among the trees of the forest. He plants a fir, and the rain makes it grow. 15 Then it becomes something for a man to burn, so he takes one of them and warms himself; he also makes a fire to bake bread. He also makes a god and worships it; he makes it a graven image and falls down before it. 16 Half of it he burns in the fire; over this half he eats meat as he roasts a roast and is satisfied. He also warms himself and says, “Aha! I am warm, I have seen the fire.” 17 But the rest of it he makes into a god, his graven image. He falls down before it and worships; he also prays to it and says, “Deliver me, for you are my god.” 18 They do not know, nor do they understand, for He has smeared over their eyes so that they cannot see and their hearts so that they cannot comprehend.