Nope. Financially speaking, this isn't as profitable as you are making it out to be, especially considering the costs involved to keep such a "conspiracy" going. In any case, it doesn't strike me as the kind of thing Valve would do.

This is the epitome of stupid. This is a rotten stinky pie they don't want any part of. It's been brought up before and it's simply a rediculous claim that falls in upon itself upon even a cursory examination.

Its possible a single dev from the team might be in on it, but unlikely.
would be a nice way to make an extra bit of clams on the side, but in comparison to the amount from game sales it is rather small.

Nah, cheat selling business is like a fart in the wind compared to what they make by just selling games. And it would be totally not worth the loss in case someone pulled the strings...
Can anyone imagine the headlines? It would be a death sentence to any publisher caught doing that.

You may have you tinfoil hat too tight on ;)

How can you be so sure? The cheats are used on the day of release of the game .Anyone care to explain that one to us ?

Plus once banned, The player has to buy the game again .Bonus !

My tinfoil hat fits just right , thanks

steam its the time to stands plzzz do somethng against hackers

引用自 Tito Shivan：

Nah, cheat selling business is like a fart in the wind compared to what they make by just selling games. And it would be totally not worth the loss in case someone pulled the strings...
Can anyone imagine the headlines? It would be a death sentence to any publisher caught doing that.

You may have you tinfoil hat too tight on ;)

Does it come with a plume of green smoke?

引用自 6b rtr87ta：

Ever wondered if the Game makers and Steam are in on the sale of cheats , Think of how much money there is to be made from subscriptions to cheats, surely they would like a slice of the cake too!

So, your logic says that Steam would drive away players and those who buy on the Steam platform :-)? Understand that there is no game without cheaters. Quite the opposite. Cheaters are the ones who do harm to the Steam platform.

引用自 Ghostkiller：

steam its the time to stands plzzz do somethng against hackers

I would too, son. It doesn't work that way. They're breaking into the Pentagon. This war has been going on for a long time and it's getting worse. Hybrid war.

So, we don't have numbers on this, but in order for this to make sense economically, a couple of things have to be true.

First, let's look at expenses that Valve has.

- VAC. There are expenses of course. Development, upkeep, labour cost, further development, and, without a doubt, legal advice. We don't know how much money this is, but I'd say it is safe to assume that it is mega money. This is a VERY expensive undertaking. And the costs don't stop, this is something that just keeps drawing money.

- The financial damage that cheating produces. Cheating can outright kill a game and carry the damage to other games aswell, like sequels. That is in essence the reason why these companies spend all that money on anti cheat systems in the first place. They spend big to prevent even bigger financial damage.

Now, in order to make money from "being in on the sale of cheats", the profit would have to significantly outweigh those expenses.

Now, as I said, we don't have the numbers, so, could this outweigh the expenses? Possibly, I don't know. I'd be VERY surprised if that was the case, but still, possible.

But it would have to be a lot more. A LOT more. Why?

Because of the gigantic risk: The truth coming out. It would have to be so much more money that it would offset everything breaking down. Imagine that coming out. That could kill a company. Kill it deader than the deadest thing that ever deaded. And this would come out. I mean, look at the kinds of leaks we see coming from various companies all the time. Most of that is stuff that makes you go "not good, bad. Anyway, what's for dinner".

And still, there were people in the loop that went "the world needs to know".

I would asign a probability of 100 to there being someone in the loop on Valve being involved in selling cheats who would go "the players need to know".

And even if there wasn't, Valve couldn't ever be sure. So What would Valve have to do to keep this from coming out?

There would have to be some sort of mob style black mail scheme to keep everybody in line. And what if someone shows signs of maybe squeeling about it anyway? Concrete shoes and sleeping with the fishes?


Why all that risk if you can just comfortably make ungodly amounts of money from the market alone?

引用自 Marmarmar34：

引用自 Tito Shivan：

Nah, cheat selling business is like a fart in the wind compared to what they make by just selling games. And it would be totally not worth the loss in case someone pulled the strings...
Can anyone imagine the headlines? It would be a death sentence to any publisher caught doing that.

You may have you tinfoil hat too tight on ;)

Does it come with a plume of green smoke?

Congrats for digging up a post that's been in the grave for 13 years by now

Oohhh, a moldy oldie…

necroposted, and a very deep grave that got dug up aswell

this is from 2012, what made you think that was worth it?