If you know it's permanent, what do you expect from other normal users?

By the way, it's a game ban.

引用自 Aki hirvaskankaalt：

so i got a week long ban from vac live but now it shows that i have a perm ban!!!!!!

This is yet another example why people should use the correct terminology.

The week long "ban" was not a ban at all. That was a cooldown, and it has nothing to do with the ban that your account now actually has.

Not that you will see this, but this page would help you understand better :

https://psteamhelp.yuanyoumao.com/en/faqs/view/7580-7BDB-1C9A-AC67

引用自 Aki hirvaskankaalt：

so i got a week long ban from vac live but now it shows that i have a perm ban!!!!!!

1 game ban on record | Info
9 day(s) since last ban

ok, so you first got a global cooldown then you got a gameban. right. so you telling us that ban is permanent, that is where you are correct.