TM(Gr35) 11 月 24 日 上午 10:51
Unfair Voting on Steam
Some developers restrict access to their games in certain countries. However, it's still possible to purchase keys for these games from third-party platforms and activate them on Steam.

Despite owning and playing the game through Steam, I’m not allowed to nominate it for awards. Why is that? I legally own the game and play it via Steam — so why can't I nominate it for "Game of the Year," for example?

There are thousands of users in the same situation, and none of them can vote for their favorite games. This seriously distorts the final voting results!

How can we bring this issue to Steam’s attention? How can we nominate the games we love???
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nullable 11 月 24 日 上午 11:09 
So you bypassed the restriction and since you're so clever you think that entitles you to what?

I mean you may be able to ignore some of the details if you want. But when you ask "why? why? why?", well you're restricted from purchasing the game, and maybe depending on the reasons, being able to access the store page and community. So since you're supposed to be restricted and not have access, why do you expect you should have access because you circumvented the restriction?

Thousands of users doing something they shouldn't be doing may not validate it. You got to play the game, you got your way. It doesn't change the restrictions. You're still restricted.
最后由 nullable 编辑于; 11 月 24 日 上午 11:11
sfnhltb 11 月 24 日 上午 11:38 
Because having the awards be entirely populated by crap games that gave away millions of keys on the condition of being voted in the steam awards wouldn't make the awards better.
Hikari Light 11 月 24 日 下午 12:00 
If the game is not available in your region, then it makes sense that you cannot vote for it or use the games community features.

And admitting to getting around the regional restrictions in a public forum isn't a good idea.
Eagle_of_Fire 11 月 24 日 下午 1:17 
引用自 TM(Gr35)
Some developers restrict access to their games in certain countries. However, it's still possible to purchase keys for these games from third-party platforms and activate them on Steam.

Despite owning and playing the game through Steam, I’m not allowed to nominate it for awards. Why is that? I legally own the game and play it via Steam — so why can't I nominate it for "Game of the Year," for example?
So... What you're saying is that you'd rather not have access to those games at all?

*holds finger over the button, waiting for an answer...*
最后由 Eagle_of_Fire 编辑于; 11 月 24 日 下午 1:17
TM(Gr35) 11 月 24 日 下午 10:15 
引用自 sfnhltb
Because having the awards be entirely populated by crap games that gave away millions of keys on the condition of being voted in the steam awards wouldn't make the awards better.
These are paid keys from the developer. No one gives them away for free. And these apply to almost all games, not just the bad ones.
TM(Gr35) 11 月 24 日 下午 10:17 
引用自 Hikari Light
If the game is not available in your region, then it makes sense that you cannot vote for it or use the games community features.

And admitting to getting around the regional restrictions in a public forum isn't a good idea.
We're not talking about circumventing the blocking.
The game can be accessed and purchased normally. It'll be blocked after two months, but I already have it.

Or by purchasing keys on third-party platforms. These are completely legal—they're supplied by the developer themselves. Steam allows this.
TM(Gr35) 11 月 24 日 下午 10:23 
引用自 Eagle_of_Fire
So... What you're saying is that you'd rather not have access to those games at all?

*holds finger over the button, waiting for an answer...*
No, I'm saying it's fair to allow voting for this game if it's in my library.
If you're implying I want to tarnish this game's reputation this way, no. All Steam nominations are positive. The developer loses a lot of votes when the results are tallied.
cSg|mc-Hotsauce 11 月 24 日 下午 11:50 
Devs/pubs disabled purchasing for Russia and Belarus for pretty obvious reasons.

The unfortunate side effect of that is you can not nominate them for the Steam Awards.

:nkCool:
TM(Gr35) 11 月 25 日 上午 12:26 
引用自 cSg|mc-Hotsauce
Devs/pubs disabled purchasing for Russia and Belarus for pretty obvious reasons.
Agree


引用自 cSg|mc-Hotsauce
The unfortunate side effect of that is you can not nominate them for the Steam Awards.
This is what I'm trying to get across. This "side effect" needs to be eliminated.
Eagle_of_Fire 11 月 25 日 上午 12:47 
引用自 TM(Gr35)
引用自 Eagle_of_Fire
So... What you're saying is that you'd rather not have access to those games at all?

*holds finger over the button, waiting for an answer...*
No, I'm saying it's fair to allow voting for this game if it's in my library.
If you're implying I want to tarnish this game's reputation this way, no. All Steam nominations are positive. The developer loses a lot of votes when the results are tallied.
Except that's not what Valve would be doing and you know it.

Look at what happened with the UK ID system.

Look at what happened in Germany.

You're asking for trouble to be brought on yourself.
最后由 Eagle_of_Fire 编辑于; 11 月 25 日 上午 12:47
It does strike me as an odd restriction given that owning and by extension playing the game is not even a requisite for voting for a title to begin with.
x 11 月 25 日 上午 3:46 
You are allowed to vote for the games you have access to via the steam store.
Since you don't have access via the steam store, you can't vote, even if you somehow managed to get the game on steam. Technically you could be breaking your country's law, so better not talk too much about it.
TM(Gr35) 11 月 25 日 上午 4:46 
It does strike me as an odd restriction
Agree



引用自 x
Technically you could be breaking your country's law, so better not talk too much about it.
No. Restrictions on their games are imposed by the developer for certain countries, not by the country itself.
x 11 月 25 日 上午 6:14 
引用自 TM(Gr35)
It does strike me as an odd restriction
Agree



引用自 x
Technically you could be breaking your country's law, so better not talk too much about it.
No. Restrictions on their games are imposed by the developer for certain countries, not by the country itself.

Well... Germany doesn't allow the sale of adult content for non validated adults. And since steam and germany can't agree on a standard systema (I can't fault steam for this) there are no adult games available (on steam) for the germans. However, there are restrictions of other sorts and in other countries. And that depends on the law in each place. It's one thing to simply say a platform can't sell this. But if the law also say something about the person buying, then there could be problems for the user.
nullable 11 月 25 日 上午 6:33 
引用自 TM(Gr35)
It does strike me as an odd restriction
Agree



引用自 x
Technically you could be breaking your country's law, so better not talk too much about it.
No. Restrictions on their games are imposed by the developer for certain countries, not by the country itself.

If you're restricted from accessing it, regardless of the reason. The effect is still the same. Yeah, we can all understand the rationalizations that you're making. There is a universe where you can vote on restricted games, it's just not this one.

Not everything you don't agree with, don't understand, or find inconvenient is a problem that needs to be solved. Your agreement isn't not required or relevant, your ignorance doesn't undermine the existing system, your inconvenience isn't something that the whole world has to revolve around.

Opinions are fine, but after you've been through the whole parade in your head and reality still is, and at some point you're just going to have accept reality. Or go vote for the restricted games you want on some other platform/voting system.

引用自 TM(Gr35)

引用自 cSg|mc-Hotsauce
The unfortunate side effect of that is you can not nominate them for the Steam Awards.
This is what I'm trying to get across. This "side effect" needs to be eliminated.

If only your opinion was equal to that or Valve and the product owners. But it's not. You want. But no one needs to accomodate your wants.
最后由 nullable 编辑于; 11 月 25 日 上午 6:37
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