Brian9824 9 月 23 日 上午 7:35
Will be intresting to see if Steam removes Ship of Heroes from their platform
Its a bit crazy there now, they perma banned myself and others for politely telling them that launching an indie MMO at $60 w/ a $15 a month sub might not result in many people buying it. Then a few days later they hit their peak playercount.... of 100 people.

Now its down to the 20's. The developer was even claiming steam requires them to remove entire threads and that they can't just remove "troll posts" and its steam's rule, not theirs.

I wonder if this will be another The Day Before instance when Steam issues mandatory refunds to everyone
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Komarimaru 9 月 23 日 上午 7:40 
I won't lie, it is amusing to see them collapsing. Literally banning for anything and everything then deleting threads.

Have a legit question? To jail! Concerned over pricing in your region? Straight to Jail! Not wanting to be forced to their own forums, which are poorly laid out? Jail for you!

https://psteamcommunity.yuanyoumao.com/app/1890100/discussions/

Amusing to see, at least.

Best part is Devs then deleting their posts after making them. Making other posts look weird from quoting them.
Start_Running 9 月 23 日 上午 7:47 
I mean they must have been on some good stuff. when your game has the same onboarding costs as WoW ...you better be cranking some top tier stuff and the promotional videos.. are not showing top tier stuff.

I mean compare that to ESO, The Old Republic, Guild Wars, Fallout 76, and the list goes ever on.

I mean.. what were they thinking?

Still it is entertaining.

Failure happens.

Will Steam remove it? Nah, the game is what it is. a bad game, severely over priced. I think at some point the devs will pull the game though.
Mad Scientist 9 月 23 日 上午 7:51 
I've been watching their discussions for some time.
First, the $60 + 15/Mo thing was laughable because they are so new and the game looks so bad, then the video of the ai voices - oh boy, that was a big no-go for me.
Secondly, when their launch spectacularly failed capping at 100 and cratering to 9 people this morning with 33 currently, they started banning anyone and everyone that was critical of the price point. Today they're going from 0-100 for reacting to everyone, I'm seeing people banned and labeled as "trolls" including people that literally told them that the game will likely fail if they push an absurd AAA price for the game.

It seems they're now just lashing out and banning everyone, including the people that wanted to wait to see how everyone else was going to review it, and most people were alienated when the Devs began making terrible responses to potential customers - and even donors.

Their game is already a massive failure, the way they're treating everyone is just going to ensure the continued failure of the game.

Also I'm fairly certain they hit you because your comment ended up in one of "Kira"s videos where he was covering legitimate feedback that the Dev was unwilling to listen to. Oh well, City of Heroes: Homecoming is free and is OK'd by NCSOFT itself to exist, best people play that instead. :claptrap:
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Brian9824 9 月 23 日 上午 7:55 
I mean i'm concerned they are going around and telling people that steam requires them to delete entire threads instead of just removing troll comments. Trying to blame steam for their actions and push the blame onto steam

Then they delete the thread shortly after that so there is no record except the pictures we took before they removed the evidence.
Mad Scientist 9 月 23 日 上午 8:00 
引用自 Brian9824
I mean i'm concerned they are going around and telling people that steam requires them to delete entire threads instead of just removing troll comments. Trying to blame steam for their actions and push the blame onto steam

Then they delete the thread shortly after that so there is no record except the pictures we took before they removed the evidence.
The major issue is there was basically no trolling, it was critical and important feedback which was the biggest point between modest success and outright failure on launch. After their out-of-touch comments towards users and their launch failure, only a few started using their own words against them to mock the situation, which due to their behavior towards users, is quite hilarious. Though they primarily just banned anyone that gave important legitimate feedback because they didn't play a game - that wasn't even out yet for the comments they disliked - because those people didn't have the mouse icon after launch. With that sort of behavior, they're going down with concord and dustborn as some of the worst launches of all time on Steam. :DukeExplosion:
最后由 Mad Scientist 编辑于; 9 月 23 日 上午 8:01
Ogami 9 月 23 日 上午 8:24 
Yikes.
After looking at the trailer on the storepage, this looks like a game you see in one of those
" I bought 10 Steam keys for 99 cent , this is what i got" videos you find on Youtube.
Looks like asset flip bonanza with graphics and animations from around 2005.
Demanding 60 bucks full price + a monthly sub for that sure is a choice.
:steamfacepalm:

But in the end, the devs can do what they want, same as the users.
It wont sell at this price and fail but its their right to try if they want.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
最后由 Ogami 编辑于; 9 月 23 日 上午 8:24
I haven't seen so many locked threads, in a while

I'll also say that I bet it won't take but 6 months for the game to go free to play so that they can try to recoup some of their losses.
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Komarimaru 9 月 23 日 上午 10:33 
What's amusing, if they are blaming the games lack of success, on trolls. They consider people who talk about the price, and the unfinished game in a polite manner, as trolls and delete their posts.

Yet, the only ones being toxic in their forums, are the developers themselves. At that point, Steam needs to step in.
Princess Luna 9 月 23 日 上午 10:40 
引用自 Mad Scientist
Also I'm fairly certain they hit you because your comment ended up in one of "Kira"s videos where he was covering legitimate feedback that the Dev was unwilling to listen to. Oh well, City of Heroes: Homecoming is free and is OK'd by NCSOFT itself to exist, best people play that instead. :claptrap:
Hi fellow Kira`s video fan
Mad Scientist 9 月 23 日 上午 10:50 
引用自 Princess Luna
引用自 Mad Scientist
Also I'm fairly certain they hit you because your comment ended up in one of "Kira"s videos where he was covering legitimate feedback that the Dev was unwilling to listen to. Oh well, City of Heroes: Homecoming is free and is OK'd by NCSOFT itself to exist, best people play that instead. :claptrap:
Hi fellow Kira`s video fan
I don't consider myself a "fan" of their videos, only seen a few here/there usually linked by people, but it was amusing to watch the Dev get roasted by multiple sources including their own donors. :claptrap:
PaulKrawitz 9 月 23 日 上午 11:00 
I took a look and damn... that game's hub has more locked than active threads.
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Brian9824 9 月 23 日 上午 11:02 
Yeah basically unless the thread is praising the game they are locking it and permanently banning the posters
AmsterdamHeavy 9 月 23 日 上午 11:06 
Id rather they dont. I would like to witness the failure and suffering. Removing it just ends the story.
xBCxRangers 9 月 23 日 上午 11:07 
引用自 Brian9824
Yeah basically unless the thread is praising the game they are locking it and permanently banning the posters

A lot of that going around. As i was told, as many are consistantly told, Developers can do what they want on their Hubs. There are Hubs that do not allow "any" criticisms.

I don't think it's right, but we've harangued by moderators and posters alike that this is how it is.

Up and including, posts mentioning specific bans that do not belong here, but with Steam Customer services or the Hub in question.
Brian9824 9 月 23 日 上午 11:13 
引用自 AmsterdamHeavy
Id rather they dont. I would like to witness the failure and suffering. Removing it just ends the story.

It would be more like the epic conclusion. The dev is giving me vibes from the Domina dev who got removed from steam in part for abusing bans.
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