report, block and move on without engaging them. That is all you can do.

引用自 pckirk：

report, block and move on without engaging them. That is all you can do.

And that this is true, is appalling.
Valve have become the biggest supporter of hatred and bigotry on the web.

引用自 pckirk：

report, block and move on without engaging them. That is all you can do.

But they are literally talking crap about me?

Can I accuse them of being a liar?

I'd rather have someone call me a snowflake a million times over being told I'm a liar or a harasser. I dont get how this works anymore. I mean I'd rather have someone call me an idiot or stupid or any other dime a dozen "insults" than some terrible accusation that actually matters.

Calling someone a snowflake is an insult. Two wrongs don't make a right, dear friend.

The mistake is thinking that you need to "defend" yourself. You don't.

引用自 The nubinator：

引用自 pckirk：

report, block and move on without engaging them. That is all you can do.

But they are literally talking crap about me?

Can I accuse them of being a liar?

I'd rather have someone call me a snowflake a million times over being told I'm a liar or a harasser. I dont get how this works anymore.

It doesn’t work. That’s the thing.
Valve clearly want this whole forum to be nothing but deranged, racist psychos and trolls, as all they do is rush to their defence.

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引用自 The nubinator：

But they are literally talking crap about me?

Can I accuse them of being a liar?

I'd rather have someone call me a snowflake a million times over being told I'm a liar or a harasser. I dont get how this works anymore.

It doesn’t work. That’s the thing.
Valve clearly want this whole forum to be nothing but deranged, racist psychos and trolls, as all they do is rush to their defence.

Is this meta trolling now? Do I get banned for asking if you're trolling me because thats indirectly accusing/insulting you of being a troll? Like I'm so confused I dont even know what you people are doing anymore.

I'm not even being facetious here, I genuinely dont know what the heck is going on with these forums anymore.


Can someone please report this post so that a mod can look at it and at least explain to me what the limits are in a conversation?


PLEASE all. REPORT this post. So I can understand.

引用自 The nubinator：

引用自 1：

It doesn’t work. That’s the thing.
Valve clearly want this whole forum to be nothing but deranged, racist psychos and trolls, as all they do is rush to their defence.

Is this meta trolling now? Do I get banned for asking if you're trolling me because thats indirectly accusing/insulting you of being a troll? Like I'm so confused I dont even know what you people are doing anymore.

lol. No, not meta trolling, but I fully understand your paranoia.
Valve just do not care. They have been called out by third parties and even American senators for hosting the webs biggest playground for nazis and extremists and they simply didn’t even respond.
This is clearly how Gabe and his cohorts want things, with their forums being a safe place for hate speech.

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引用自 The nubinator：

Is this meta trolling now? Do I get banned for asking if you're trolling me because thats indirectly accusing/insulting you of being a troll? Like I'm so confused I dont even know what you people are doing anymore.

lol. No, not meta trolling, but I fully understand your paranoia.
Valve just do not care. They have been called out by third parties and even American senators for hosting the webs biggest playground for nazis and extremists and they simply didn’t even respond.
This is clearly how Gabe and his cohorts want things, with their forums being a safe place for hate speech.

I don't even know how to reply to this. Im just gonna get myself banned for real if I do attempt to. Its confused rambling. I do not know what you're talking about.


Nobody was being racist or woke or anything. We were talking about some small strategy game in its own sub forum and because I told him how he could solve his problems without the dev having to make a patch he felt he needed to accuse me of harassement and I called him a snowflake.

That's literally the extent of it.

引用自 The nubinator：

引用自 1：

lol. No, not meta trolling, but I fully understand your paranoia.
Valve just do not care. They have been called out by third parties and even American senators for hosting the webs biggest playground for nazis and extremists and they simply didn’t even respond.
This is clearly how Gabe and his cohorts want things, with their forums being a safe place for hate speech.

I don't even know how to reply to this. Im just gonna get myself banned for real if I do attempt to. Its confused rambling. I do not know what you're talking about.

???
From your original post, you seemed to be making sense. But now you are unable to even understand my reply?

I think the issue here may be between chair and screen.

引用自 The nubinator：

You can't call someone a snowflake now after they falsely accuse you of harassing them?

Is there any limit? How do you even defend yourself against accusations?

If someone calls you a cheat can you call them blind?


Guy I never met before and had only one exchange with told me I'm harassing him.
What is the proper reply to this?

"I'm not harassing you?" No ♥♥♥♥?

Can I call him a Karen? Is there nothing you can say against someone that's obviously accusing you of nonsense?

Never harassed anyone in my life online..

A European insurance company once had an ad campaign with the slogan:

"WE'D LIKE TO HAVE YOUR PROBLEMS!"

Need an insurance?

Honestly just hold on, we won’t have to live in parody-land much longer. These people are going to have to develop tough skin or just stop being a part of the community altogether

Simply put: you cannot call somebody anything. No name-calling. It doesn't matter if it's a good or bad word.

Whenever you write something such as: "You are a [insert word or name here]," or, "You [insert word or name here]," you take a risk of someone being insulted by whatever you call it.

If you can just keep that in mind to not make this string of words, it should be easy enough to remember.

It's easier to remember this, than having to keep track of every word individually, and whether or not the word has a positive or negative connotation to an individual.

引用自 AustrAlien2010：

Simply put: you cannot call somebody anything. No name-calling.

Whenever your write something such as: "You are a [insert word or name here]," you take a risk of someone being insulted by whatever you call it.

If you can just keep that in mind, it should be easy enough to remember.

Why is actual illegal speech such as defaming someone allowed on steam but calling someone out whose doing that isn't?


I think this is part of the rhetoric of why baiting people is allowed but responding to baits isn't which is a common complaint. I think context should matter and that these moderators shouldn't have such free reign over deciding what's offensive or not but thats beyond the point.

I've seen people be accused of being liars, cheaters, racists, communists, heck I've seen a guy be stalked and called a pedophile.

What the guy accused me of was in comparison minor. But all these things if persistently applied are actual defamation and illegal.


Is the only recourse then to tell the guy he's a liar, a manipulator? Like make up an accusation? That's even worse and it creates toxicity.

Repeat to yourself. Don't engage deflect. Failure is frustration. Were I you i'd have told them this. I have neither the time nor the inclination to deal with your nonsense. Go find someone else who will put up whatever you're going on about. The brush off basically forces them to escalate. Until they manage to get themselves banned from the forum.

引用自 Dodece：

Repeat to yourself. Don't engage deflect. Failure is frustration. Were I you i'd have told them this. I have neither the time nor the inclination to deal with your nonsense. Go find someone else who will put up whatever you're going on about. The brush off basically forces them to escalate. Until they manage to get themselves banned from the forum.

Its so passive aggressive it makes me cringe and it feels even more toxic. But I guess when everything lands on technicalities this is where we end up.