captaincofresi 2021 年 12 月 17 日 下午 2:24
Need new PC sim/arcade racing games WITH proper racing wheel support
Lately it seems PC sim/arcade racing games WITH proper racing sheel support are a dying breed. As Dirt 5 and GRID Legends seem to focus on consoles only and lack proper steering wheel support.

Even though I have a quite old steering wheel, the Logitech Driving Force GT I really appreciate that back in the day Codemasters still developed proper support in the games Dirt 4, Dirt Rally 2.0 (for Rallycross it only works for Single Player until you get to the fastest cars, due to bad unbalanced AI difficulty design) and Project Cars 3.

So I would really like to see more racing games like that, that are just on the edge of sim/arcade and have a great fun single player experience.
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crunchyfrog 2021 年 12 月 17 日 下午 10:49 
I use the same wheel (except it's a GT Pro).

All the games I have support it fine. And the PROPER sims do indeed support these. Though the games you're referring to are more middle of the road anyway, so that explains why they're more dividing focus between that and controller. Project Cars 3 is by no means a sim by any stretch.

It depends what you already have.

There are plnety of older games that stand up really well today for a tough sim like experience - Richard Burns Rally will eat you for lunch, as will GP Legends (assuming you can find it, and add all the upgrades for a modern machine).

But there's games like GTR-2 and RFactor 2 which are excellent older titles fully accessible and feel great today - I play these all the time.

Assetto Corsa (and the sequel Competizione) are OK sim like experiences, as is Autombilista (though 2 is based on the same engine as Project Cars so a word of caution there).

BeamNG drive works fine once you get your wheel set up OK. It can be a right mess by default though, espiecally with force feedback.


But in any case, generally speaking, it really depends on things a lot. You're ALWAYS going to get the old fight of sim versus mainstream simply because the endemic problem there - more sim like means a "better" games for purists, but at the expense of revenue because they will always remain more niche and attacrt less sales.

And you can't escape that fact.

But yeah, you're looking at the wrong games for sim like experience as the ones you mention aren't that, so it's unsurprising.
最后由 crunchyfrog 编辑于; 2021 年 12 月 17 日 下午 10:49
captaincofresi 2021 年 12 月 30 日 上午 8:30 
"Project Cars 3 is by no means a sim by any stretch." I know, it is a sim/arcade game, not a sim at all. But not pure arcade either, that is more Forza and Need For Speed territory in my opionion. But I will look into Grid2 as an option for an older sim/arcade game, as that seems to be still available for the PS3 that is. And only the demo is available on Steam.
crunchyfrog 2021 年 12 月 30 日 上午 8:31 
引用自 captaincofresi
"Project Cars 3 is by no means a sim by any stretch." I know, it is a sim/arcade game, not a sim at all. But not pure arcade either, that is more Forza and Need For Speed territory in my opionion. But I will look into Grid2 as an option for an older sim/arcade game, as that seems to be still available for the PS3 that is. And only the demo is available on Steam.
Well to be operfectly fair Project Cars 3 if it were polished would nided be that. But it'sw a mess.
captaincofresi 2021 年 12 月 30 日 上午 8:35 
引用自 crunchyfrog
引用自 captaincofresi
"Project Cars 3 is by no means a sim by any stretch." I know, it is a sim/arcade game, not a sim at all. But not pure arcade either, that is more Forza and Need For Speed territory in my opionion. But I will look into Grid2 as an option for an older sim/arcade game, as that seems to be still available for the PS3 that is. And only the demo is available on Steam.
Well to be operfectly fair Project Cars 3 if it were polished would nided be that. But it'sw a mess.

I do agree on that, now that I also tried a couple of the cars with a lot of power they are quite undrivable when having Traction Control turned off. E.g. with the McLaren P1, even when using half throttle and very easy thrust it the weels just spin like crazy. I do think that design is very unbalanced, same with the Lamborghini's with a bit more power to it. So now I just have Project Cars 3 to drive some F1 GP tracks on occassion with a medium powered car.

Now also playing Gran Turismo 6 on the PS3, and seems to do a far better job for being a sim/arcade racer with my DFGT steering wheel.
最后由 captaincofresi 编辑于; 2021 年 12 月 30 日 上午 8:37
crunchyfrog 2021 年 12 月 30 日 上午 8:40 
引用自 captaincofresi
引用自 crunchyfrog
Well to be operfectly fair Project Cars 3 if it were polished would nided be that. But it'sw a mess.

I do agree on that, now that I also tried a couple of the cars with a lot of power they are quite undrivable when having Traction Control turned off. E.g. with the McLaren P1, even when using half throttle and very easy thrust it the weels just spin like crazy. I do think that design is very unbalanced, same with the Lamborghini's with a bit more power to it. So now I just have Project Cars 3 to drive some F1 GP tracks on occassion with a medium powered car.

Now also playing Gran Turismo 6 on the PS3, and seems to do a far better job for being a sim/arcade racer with my DFGT steering wheel.
It's basically the bugs they had back in the early days (from NFS Shift possibly) in the first Project Cars certainly. There were default setups being all over the place and the AI being easy on one track and impossible on another.

But the worst for me was the erratic and broken handling. There's certain cars which have wrong metrics, where you can have the car set quite high in ride height yet it still does weird stuff. I suspect their tracks weren't finessed as far as the meshing goes and they were catching on that.

Then there's other setups which either don't work or are messed up. I can't remember the exatc detail sbut it's so all over the place that it makes every car setup and track set up a crap shoot.
Sawtaytoes 11 月 28 日 下午 3:48 
I'm looking for one as well. The last I played was Need for Speed: Heat. Everything else is a boring simulator like Forza Horizon (supposed to be arcade, but steering wheel support is worse than controller). I miss arcade racers with proper steering wheel support. Used to be tons on PC.
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