The government does not handle law enforcement. They just pardon people or secretly dismiss cases.

Law enforcement is allowed to act upon their own discretion.

In the most extreme cases, hundreds have been killed and law enforcement determined the call was not important enough to respond to. We might have disagreements about law, but cops generally want to do the right thing. I have been in fights and stuff where cops just pretended it didnt happen because the other guy was wrong.

College aged people do steal animals from captivities from time to time, sometimes abused, labs, zoos, etc. Pretty much every time they do not think through what is needed to keep wild or exotic animals alive, and often have to give them back, looking foolish before jail time. But puppies are not as much of a problem of course.

If the dogs are not an exotic breed, they are not making money anyway, and if you stole their dogs, they would just find another anyway. If they are an expensive breed, maybe stealing them would change things. But what would it change? You took a dog from its family that loves it. Then it will have puppies so you will be doing what, selling those puppies. Would you be any better if you gave them away, no? You could neuter the dog but that actually is wrong.

Its ok for people to sell puppies. Its not ok to be an unhinged millennial trying to play moral police like they all do. They have the lowest morality of the worlds existence, why try to be moral police? They should start by pointing at themselves and looking inside themselves before accusing the rest of the world of things like owning a dog.

Oprindeligt skrevet af TheSenate7:

Theoretically would the goverment care if someone kidnapped a thousand puppy mill owners?

I don't know what a puppy mill is supposed to be, and I certainly don't know what the US will end up being -- they are currently in free fall, so anything that is said today could already be invalid in a few hours.

However, in general, law enforcement and the courts are meant to uphold the law. If you're implying that a "puppy mill" is something illegal already, they would have been convicted before anyway.

However, let's assume they have not. One rule that's common to all modern states is that one crime does not excuse another: if you're killing a drug dealer, you're still going to serve time for murder. Thus, if a "puppy mill" is illegal, and you're kidnapping its owner, you're still serving time for kidnapping and whatever else you might have done.

yes, they would care. vigilantism is illegal even if the other person is 100% confirmed to be committing crimes.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Kargor:

Oprindeligt skrevet af TheSenate7:

Theoretically would the goverment care if someone kidnapped a thousand puppy mill owners?

I don't know what a puppy mill is supposed to be, and I certainly don't know what the US will end up being -- they are currently in free fall, so anything that is said today could already be invalid in a few hours.

However, in general, law enforcement and the courts are meant to uphold the law. If you're implying that a "puppy mill" is something illegal already, they would have been convicted before anyway.

However, let's assume they have not. One rule that's common to all modern states is that one crime does not excuse another: if you're killing a drug dealer, you're still going to serve time for murder. Thus, if a "puppy mill" is illegal, and you're kidnapping its owner, you're still serving time for kidnapping and whatever else you might have done.

Its not really illegal but its morally wrong google puppy mill I cant explain it really well puppy mill owners just really tick me off but thanks for answering my question

Oprindeligt skrevet af primeinsurrection:

The government does not handle law enforcement. They just pardon people or secretly dismiss cases.

Law enforcement is allowed to act upon their own discretion.

In the most extreme cases, hundreds have been killed and law enforcement determined the call was not important enough to respond to. We might have disagreements about law, but cops generally want to do the right thing. I have been in fights and stuff where cops just pretended it didnt happen because the other guy was wrong.

College aged people do steal animals from captivities from time to time, sometimes abused, labs, zoos, etc. Pretty much every time they do not think through what is needed to keep wild or exotic animals alive, and often have to give them back, looking foolish before jail time. But puppies are not as much of a problem of course.

If the dogs are not an exotic breed, they are not making money anyway, and if you stole their dogs, they would just find another anyway. If they are an expensive breed, maybe stealing them would change things. But what would it change? You took a dog from its family that loves it. Then it will have puppies so you will be doing what, selling those puppies. Would you be any better if you gave them away, no? You could neuter the dog but that actually is wrong.

Its ok for people to sell puppies. Its not ok to be an unhinged millennial trying to play moral police like they all do. They have the lowest morality of the worlds existence, why try to be moral police? They should start by pointing at themselves and looking inside themselves before accusing the rest of the world of things like owning a dog.

Im not saying I would do it im saying in a theoretical world where someone did

Oprindeligt skrevet af primeinsurrection:

The government does not handle law enforcement. They just pardon people or secretly dismiss cases.

Law enforcement is allowed to act upon their own discretion.

In the most extreme cases, hundreds have been killed and law enforcement determined the call was not important enough to respond to. We might have disagreements about law, but cops generally want to do the right thing. I have been in fights and stuff where cops just pretended it didnt happen because the other guy was wrong.

College aged people do steal animals from captivities from time to time, sometimes abused, labs, zoos, etc. Pretty much every time they do not think through what is needed to keep wild or exotic animals alive, and often have to give them back, looking foolish before jail time. But puppies are not as much of a problem of course.

If the dogs are not an exotic breed, they are not making money anyway, and if you stole their dogs, they would just find another anyway. If they are an expensive breed, maybe stealing them would change things. But what would it change? You took a dog from its family that loves it. Then it will have puppies so you will be doing what, selling those puppies. Would you be any better if you gave them away, no? You could neuter the dog but that actually is wrong.

Its ok for people to sell puppies. Its not ok to be an unhinged millennial trying to play moral police like they all do. They have the lowest morality of the worlds existence, why try to be moral police? They should start by pointing at themselves and looking inside themselves before accusing the rest of the world of things like owning a dog.

I highly doubt theres anything such as a exotic breed also puppy mill owners dont care about their dogs they use them as property im just saying theoretically cause I have heard cases of people kidnapping monsters in this world and i was curious

Oprindeligt skrevet af primeinsurrection:

The government does not handle law enforcement. They just pardon people or secretly dismiss cases.

Law enforcement is allowed to act upon their own discretion.

In the most extreme cases, hundreds have been killed and law enforcement determined the call was not important enough to respond to. We might have disagreements about law, but cops generally want to do the right thing. I have been in fights and stuff where cops just pretended it didnt happen because the other guy was wrong.

College aged people do steal animals from captivities from time to time, sometimes abused, labs, zoos, etc. Pretty much every time they do not think through what is needed to keep wild or exotic animals alive, and often have to give them back, looking foolish before jail time. But puppies are not as much of a problem of course.

If the dogs are not an exotic breed, they are not making money anyway, and if you stole their dogs, they would just find another anyway. If they are an expensive breed, maybe stealing them would change things. But what would it change? You took a dog from its family that loves it. Then it will have puppies so you will be doing what, selling those puppies. Would you be any better if you gave them away, no? You could neuter the dog but that actually is wrong.

Its ok for people to sell puppies. Its not ok to be an unhinged millennial trying to play moral police like they all do. They have the lowest morality of the worlds existence, why try to be moral police? They should start by pointing at themselves and looking inside themselves before accusing the rest of the world of things like owning a dog.

Im saying puppy mill owners are not ethical its not ok but i would never kidnap them im just saying ive heard people have kidnapped monsters before I just rather am curious cause of this whole epstein thing

Speaking of your last sentence, put yourself in their shoes, wouldn't you defend your own?

Oprindeligt skrevet af Gammy:

Speaking of your last sentence, put yourself in their shoes, wouldn't you defend your own?

Yeah if I was a monster seems logical

i am the Senate

Oprindeligt skrevet af Gammy:

Speaking of your last sentence, put yourself in their shoes, wouldn't you defend your own?

Bro theres a dude defending puppy mill owners I was just curious cause ive heard cases of people kidnapping other monsters like pedos and whatnot and this one dude goes on a rant defending puppy mill owners its crazy or maybe i misinterrupreted

Oprindeligt skrevet af bythelee:

i am the Senate

Lol

Oprindeligt skrevet af Kargor:

Oprindeligt skrevet af TheSenate7:

Theoretically would the goverment care if someone kidnapped a thousand puppy mill owners?

I don't know what a puppy mill is supposed to be, and I certainly don't know what the US will end up being -- they are currently in free fall, so anything that is said today could already be invalid in a few hours.

However, in general, law enforcement and the courts are meant to uphold the law. If you're implying that a "puppy mill" is something illegal already, they would have been convicted before anyway.

However, let's assume they have not. One rule that's common to all modern states is that one crime does not excuse another: if you're killing a drug dealer, you're still going to serve time for murder. Thus, if a "puppy mill" is illegal, and you're kidnapping its owner, you're still serving time for kidnapping and whatever else you might have done.

I have never kidnapped a puppy mill owner Im saying im curious cause on tiktok I heard theres a serial killer who is going around getting rid of monsters its quite facinating

Oprindeligt skrevet af primeinsurrection:

The government does not handle law enforcement. They just pardon people or secretly dismiss cases.

Law enforcement is allowed to act upon their own discretion.

In the most extreme cases, hundreds have been killed and law enforcement determined the call was not important enough to respond to. We might have disagreements about law, but cops generally want to do the right thing. I have been in fights and stuff where cops just pretended it didnt happen because the other guy was wrong.

College aged people do steal animals from captivities from time to time, sometimes abused, labs, zoos, etc. Pretty much every time they do not think through what is needed to keep wild or exotic animals alive, and often have to give them back, looking foolish before jail time. But puppies are not as much of a problem of course.

If the dogs are not an exotic breed, they are not making money anyway, and if you stole their dogs, they would just find another anyway. If they are an expensive breed, maybe stealing them would change things. But what would it change? You took a dog from its family that loves it. Then it will have puppies so you will be doing what, selling those puppies. Would you be any better if you gave them away, no? You could neuter the dog but that actually is wrong.

Its ok for people to sell puppies. Its not ok to be an unhinged millennial trying to play moral police like they all do. They have the lowest morality of the worlds existence, why try to be moral police? They should start by pointing at themselves and looking inside themselves before accusing the rest of the world of things like owning a dog.

Also never mentioned stealing dogs im saying if someone kidnapped a puppy mill owners theres a serial killer on tiktok thats going around getting rid of monsters

"would the government CARE"... LLOLOOOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLLLLLLLLL!