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admiral1018 12 月 5 日 下午 3:03
Was the second airstrike on the stranded drug boat murder?
https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/05/politics/suriname-boat-strike-bradley

The US military ultimately struck the boat four times—the first time splitting the boat in half and leaving two survivors clinging to a capsized portion, CNN reported on Thursday. The second, third and fourth strikes killed them and sunk the vessel.

The survivors were also waving at something in the air, the sources said Bradley told them, although it’s unclear whether they might have been surrendering or asking the US aircraft they had spotted for help.

Basically, after the first strike, two people survived and were floating on the capsized wreckage. They were waving something (that could have been a white flag). They were deliberately struck again and killed.

Is this murder or appropriate use of force to stop cartel-related smuggling?
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tallgeese 12 月 5 日 下午 3:05 
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There's been no proof provided that they were 'drug boats'

Yes, it was murder. They are trying to start a war with Venezuela as that is what most fascists do to consolidate power.
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Gracey Face 12 月 5 日 下午 3:05 
If they survived they would just have been smuggling more within a handful of days. If your aim is to intimidate people enough that they stop smuggling then you have to do terrible things to those you catch smuggling.
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Duck Twacy 12 月 5 日 下午 3:06 
That's for the courts to decide. But transport of drugs over water is a vector for drug kingpins.
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76561199842107952 12 月 5 日 下午 3:08 
nah, it's fine
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󠀡󠀡 12 月 5 日 下午 3:10 
you sunk my battle ship!
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76561198088409502 12 月 5 日 下午 3:11 
what could intentionally massacring random people on boats be other than murder?

randomly accusing people of being cartel members with 0 proof and massacring them is completely unjust
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Day 1 12 月 5 日 下午 3:12 
引用自 tallgeese：
There's been no proof provided that they were 'drug boats'

Yes, it was murder. They are trying to start a war with Venezuela as that is what most fascists do to consolidate power.
This is true. As someone who has lived on the coast their entire life, I have seen many a civilian fishing submarine. :)
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Crystal Sharrd 12 月 5 日 下午 3:12 
All of these strikes have been murder.
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Druid Level 7 12 月 5 日 下午 3:12 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFwdSLINT8o
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xAlphaStarOmegax 12 月 5 日 下午 3:12 
引用自 tallgeese：
There's been no proof provided that they were 'drug boats'

Yes, it was murder. They are trying to start a war with Venezuela as that is what most fascists do to consolidate power.
Agreed. It was absolutely murder. They were most likely fishermen, but even if they were cartel members, this does not give America the right to slaughter them. Imagine if they just started shooting at American boats.
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Santa Klaus 12 月 5 日 下午 3:16 
引用自 Gracey Face：
If they survived they would just have been smuggling more within a handful of days. If your aim is to intimidate people enough that they stop smuggling then you have to do terrible things to those you catch smuggling.

"Criminals might reoffend so it's best to assume someone in a foreign region is a criminal and then murder them just to be sure!"
~ Your logic.
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Day 1 12 月 5 日 下午 3:17 
引用自 Santa Klaus：
引用自 Gracey Face：
If they survived they would just have been smuggling more within a handful of days. If your aim is to intimidate people enough that they stop smuggling then you have to do terrible things to those you catch smuggling.

"Criminals might reoffend so it's best to assume someone in a foreign region is a criminal and then murder them just to be sure!"
~ Your logic.
holy based
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King of Games 12 月 5 日 下午 3:17 
引用自 Day 1：
引用自 tallgeese：
There's been no proof provided that they were 'drug boats'

Yes, it was murder. They are trying to start a war with Venezuela as that is what most fascists do to consolidate power.
This is true. As someone who has lived on the coast their entire life, I have seen many a civilian fishing submarine. :)
imagine not having a fishing submarine in 2025
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tallgeese 12 月 5 日 下午 3:27 
The MAGAs are saying it was a submarine now? Even though there is video proof that it was a boat?

These people truly do live in their own fabricated reality.
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Gracey Face 12 月 5 日 下午 3:30 
引用自 Santa Klaus：
引用自 Gracey Face：
If they survived they would just have been smuggling more within a handful of days. If your aim is to intimidate people enough that they stop smuggling then you have to do terrible things to those you catch smuggling.

"Criminals might reoffend so it's best to assume someone in a foreign region is a criminal and then murder them just to be sure!"
~ Your logic.

It's not an assumption, and not technically murder, but otherwise yes I agree.
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