Maritime history lessons

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Bearista 2. dec. kl. 16:16

Here is one history lesson that you don't know. In fact even I didn't know it.

During WW1 England suffered great losses and lost all its armada. Once a military maritime country it sunk to the abyss. The biggest armada in the world during the period between WW1 and WW2 was the Italian. They were the strongest maritime military under Mussolini and they controlled the whole Mediterranean. They were so strong that nobody ever wanted to mess with Italy when they attacked Ethiopia because it meant certain death to mess with them at that time.

We may argue that maybe the Japanese were stronger but for simplicity sake let's say they were too far away in the Pacific.

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xBCxRangers 2. dec. kl. 16:18

Well, we see how all that worked out for The Duce.

White Knight 2. dec. kl. 16:20

Oprindeligt skrevet af Bearista:
In fact even I didn't know it.

Do you even hear yourself?

Hapless 2. dec. kl. 16:20

This is hilariously wrong. Italy got spanked in ww2.

Bearista 2. dec. kl. 16:21

Oprindeligt skrevet af xBCxRangers:
Well, we see how all that worked out for The Duce.

Yeah we know that. HE actually wanted to ressurect the Roman Empire if you can believe that.

But it is just a history fact. Check it out indeed the Italians had the strongest fleet in that period, and historians say that when they attacked Ethiopia the United Nations and England and France choose to leave Ethiopia to its destiny because so scared of Mussolini

Homerchu 2. dec. kl. 16:21

Italy changed teams during the war

Bearista 2. dec. kl. 16:24

Oprindeligt skrevet af Homerchu:
Italy changed teams during the war

I am talking about a period of 20 years between ww1 and ww2. This is not a short period and is of consequence to many historians. In fact these 20 years and what happened during these 20 years led to ww2 and it is of great interest and debate

Bearista 2. dec. kl. 16:25

the period can be summarized like this

- Germany recovered very fast
- Italy gained power in the seas
- France and England never recovered the losses and remained weak all the way until the end of WW2

xBCxRangers 2. dec. kl. 16:26

Oprindeligt skrevet af Bearista:
Oprindeligt skrevet af xBCxRangers:
Well, we see how all that worked out for The Duce.
Yeah we know that. HE actually wanted to ressurect the Roman Empire if you can believe that.

But it is just a history fact. Check it out indeed the Italians had the strongest fleet in that period, and historians say that when they attacked Ethiopia the United Nations and England and France choose to leave Ethiopia to its destiny because so scared of Mussolini

Well it didn't do my grandpop any good. He was shot in the leg in a trench and was a German POW in WW1.

At the end of the war, he moved here, only to have my dad have to go back 20 years later and crush the Duce. Accordingst to him when he was detached to OSS, they couldn't fight. All they wanted to do was get drunk and chase women. Many of them ran away.

What good was having a navy if they couldn't fight?

Whatever happened between two world wars is relatively meaningless i would think. As well as conquering a country nobody cared about but Italy apparently

Sidst redigeret af xBCxRangers; 2. dec. kl. 16:28

Bearista 2. dec. kl. 16:29

Oprindeligt skrevet af xBCxRangers:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Bearista:
Yeah we know that. HE actually wanted to ressurect the Roman Empire if you can believe that.

But it is just a history fact. Check it out indeed the Italians had the strongest fleet in that period, and historians say that when they attacked Ethiopia the United Nations and England and France choose to leave Ethiopia to its destiny because so scared of Mussolini

Well it didn't do my grandpop any good. He was shot in the leg in a trench and was a German POW in WW1.

At the end of the war, he moved here, only to have my dad have to go back 20 years later and crush the Duce. Accordingst to him when he was detached to OSS, they couldn't fight. All they wanted to do was get drunk and chase women. Many of them ran away.

What good was having a navy if they couldn't fight?

Whatever happened between two world wars in relatively meaningless i would think. As well as conquering a country nobody cared about but Italy apparently

Oh nooo this is bad mistake. THe period of 20 years between the the wars is of great interest because this period gave rise to ww2 exactly.

Also the event in Spain under Franco even are of interest because the Wermacht and Mussolini gained confidence exactly in Spain and decided they can challenge the democratic regimes later

Hapless 2. dec. kl. 16:29

Oprindeligt skrevet af Bearista:
the period can be summarized like this

- Germany recovered very fast
- Italy gained power in the seas
- France and England never recovered the losses and remained weak all the way until the end of WW2

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/iPUkiZoC_oc

Short history lesson for you as you clearly need one.

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Avenger199 2. dec. kl. 16:30

Oprindeligt skrevet af Bearista:
Oprindeligt skrevet af xBCxRangers:
Well, we see how all that worked out for The Duce.
Yeah we know that. HE actually wanted to ressurect the Roman Empire if you can believe that.

But it is just a history fact. Check it out indeed the Italians had the strongest fleet in that period, and historians say that when they attacked Ethiopia the United Nations and England and France choose to leave Ethiopia to its destiny because so scared of Mussolini

hey i know about HE

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xBCxRangers 2. dec. kl. 16:31

Oprindeligt skrevet af Bearista:
Oprindeligt skrevet af xBCxRangers:

Well it didn't do my grandpop any good. He was shot in the leg in a trench and was a German POW in WW1.

At the end of the war, he moved here, only to have my dad have to go back 20 years later and crush the Duce. Accordingst to him when he was detached to OSS, they couldn't fight. All they wanted to do was get drunk and chase women. Many of them ran away.

What good was having a navy if they couldn't fight?

Whatever happened between two world wars in relatively meaningless i would think. As well as conquering a country nobody cared about but Italy apparently
Oh nooo this is bad mistake. THe period of 20 years between the the wars is of great interest because this period gave rise to ww2 exactly.

Also the event in Spain under Franco even are of interest because the Wermacht and Mussolini gained confidence exactly in Spain and decided they can challenge the democratic regimes later

The lesson of Mussolini is he was a big blowhard leading a country that couldn't fight, and those citizens paid a heavy price for backing him.

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Bearista 2. dec. kl. 16:34

Many historians you can hear them explain to you why the USA never acted on Ethipio, or even acted on Japan attack Manchuria and China. Nobody really acted. Yes we know that England and France were devastated and fearful of Mussolini's fleet in the MEditarranean. But what about the USA ?

It turns out, as historians explain, the USA in that period was living one of its best times. The decade of opulence and decadence, the jazz era. Movements were strong there, everyone was just happy with jazz and decadence, why would they interfere and start another world war. They didn't care. And in fact the USA was doing so good on its own that it remained deeply isolationist up until Japan declared war on them and woke them up from the jazz dream.

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