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パエトーン (Belle) 12 月 1 日 下午 2:16
Government is not a charity or surrogate parent
"Woe is me social security cut, welfare cut, medicare, EBTs cut, food banks in decline, etc"

It's called working, saving, and investing. Or is this an alien concept for some?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTtnGZY7h1A

The primary purpose of government is enforcing property rights, providing national defense, enforcing social order, and development. While some resources can be allocated for social safety nets, it should not be treated as a money tree. Government is NOT a charity.

OT seems to have this distorted view where the government's primary function is supposedly for providing people with modern conveniences. That is not the case at all.

The young should learn to be self sustaining, and the old should have prepared for retirement. Don't expect other people (taxpayers) to bail out your mistakes in life.
最后由 パエトーン (Belle) 编辑于; 12 月 1 日 下午 3:37
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引用自 Drain:
They don't want to work. They're incentivized and rewarded NOT to work. Welcome to socialism. But it's not sustainable long term. This is why socialism always fails. A host can only feed so many freeloading leeches before it dies.
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Voroff 12 月 1 日 下午 2:19 
引用自 パエトーン (Belle)：
Or is this an alien concept for some?
Why are you so alien to the concept of basic humanity ? ... ... next thing you'll tell me that you're a Christ believer ...
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Tito Shivan 12 月 1 日 下午 2:21 
It's kind of charming seeing house cats think they're lions.
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Swarmfly 12 月 1 日 下午 2:22 
Do not feed the wildlife, lest they become dependent on handouts.
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Siluva 12 月 1 日 下午 2:23 
Except the government and politics are prolly the biggest leeches that exist.
Living a luxury life with taxpayers money while bringing nothing of value.
Then we'll see later about the other leeches and who deserve help or not.
最后由 Siluva 编辑于; 12 月 1 日 下午 2:27
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Voroff 12 月 1 日 下午 2:24 
引用自 Swarmfly：
Do not feed the wildlife, lest they become dependent on handouts.
There is a lot of disabled vet's that want to have a word with you. NOW.
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Stingray_tm 12 月 1 日 下午 2:26 
引用自 パエトーン (Belle)：
It's called working, saving, and investing. Or is this an alien concept for some?

One day you might end up in a bad situatiion without you having made any mistake. Might be a disabling accidant, a deadly disease or something else outside of your control, that will ruin your life. I better hope you then won't rely on the help of other people and I also hope you won't complain about your bad luck then,

I honestly believe that society should help anyone in need with one exception: People wwho are not willing to help other people themselves despite being capable of doing that.
最后由 Stingray_tm 编辑于; 12 月 1 日 下午 2:28
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Swarmfly 12 月 1 日 下午 2:28 
引用自 Voroff：
引用自 Swarmfly：
Do not feed the wildlife, lest they become dependent on handouts.
There is a lot of disabled vet's that want to have a word with you. NOW.

Sucks for them that they got conned fighting for what exactly again?
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Stingray_tm 12 月 1 日 下午 2:29 
引用自 Swarmfly：
Sucks for them that they got conned fighting for what exactly again?

For you being able to badmouth them for risking their life for you.
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Swarmfly 12 月 1 日 下午 2:32 
引用自 Stingray_tm：
引用自 Swarmfly：
Sucks for them that they got conned fighting for what exactly again?

For you being able to badmouth them for risking their life for you.

You are free to badmouth me back when I get drafted fighting some equally worthless war.
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Stingray_tm 12 月 1 日 下午 2:34 
引用自 Swarmfly：
引用自 Stingray_tm：

For you being able to badmouth them for risking their life for you.

You are free to badmouth me back when I get drafted fighting some equally worthless war.

I won't. But I won't feel empathy if something bad happens to selfish people who don't care about other people, that are down on their luck.
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Swarmfly 12 月 1 日 下午 2:37 
引用自 Stingray_tm：
引用自 Swarmfly：

You are free to badmouth me back when I get drafted fighting some equally worthless war.

I won't. But I won't feel empathy if something bad happens to selfish people who don't care about other people, that are down on their luck.

Exactly. Not gonna think twice about endangering my squad because I never really had a grudge against the enemy soldier who makes as much money in his life as I do in a year, it's just the least I can do.
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Drain 12 月 1 日 下午 2:49 
They don't want to work. They're incentivized and rewarded NOT to work. Welcome to socialism. But it's not sustainable long term. This is why socialism always fails. A host can only feed so many freeloading leeches before it dies.
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ZZZZZ 12 月 1 日 下午 2:50 
yea government is just all take and not give, those taxes are meant to go into someones pockets after all!
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MinionJoe 12 月 1 日 下午 2:51 
引用自 Swarmfly：
Do not feed the wildlife, lest they become dependent on handouts.
Huh. That kinda explains why women who refuse to cook a meal tend to choose the bear.
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hehexd 12 月 1 日 下午 2:51 
引用自 パエトーン (Belle)：
"Woe is me social security cut, welfare cut, medicare, EBTs cut, food banks in decline, etc"

It's called working, saving, and investing. Or is this an alien concept for some?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afkN9H9aLow
Yeah this talk only comes from people who arent disabled...but hey if you wish to do genocide just say so
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